Movies (and occasionally face slaps) (Part 3)

I remember enjoying the movie when I saw it. I liked the time element. Wasn’t great, would not tell anyone to run and see it but I enjoyed it, if memory holds.

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Err, I can. That movie was pretty good though I thought.

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Same. The premise was interesting enough that despite it’s many flaws and “that’s dumb” moments I really didn’t mind the movie.

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Also I thought jt was good in it.

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Oh totally. I speak in jest. I like him in these movies:

She’s the Man
Haywire
21 Jump Street
Side Effects
This is the End
Don Jon
Roofman

But he has a long list of atrocious bullshit. His career should have been over after Jupiter Ascending.

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I’ve never watched Jupiter Ascending. I might have given it chance despite the poor reviews because I like sci-fi but I could never bring myself to click on a movie titled “Jupiter Ascending” to start watching it. The title alone doesn’t inspire much confidence that it could be anything but bad.

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No one liked my Abe Vigoda reference?

In a Barney Miller episode, there was some confusion over whose bill for a lunch it was based on a receipt (maybe credit card fraud or something). Fish looks at the receipt and says it’s not his because he would never leave a tip. Abe Vigoda was 53 when Barney Miller started. Chew on that.

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It’s kind of so bad it’s good, but you have to watch it in that context. Eddie Redmayne, for example, in the same year won an academy award for best actor AND delivered this performance.

Not a real thing.

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Great movie. Not at all bad.

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Yes it is.

We are probably disagreeing over the meaning of “good.”

I think good lies somewhere between a C and D Clovis rating.

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Haha maybe so.

For me, there is a difference in “good” and “so bad it’s good.”

A good movie is a good movie.

But a movie that is so bad it is good, for me, is a movie that is poorly made, and yet watching it provides a meaningful experience, sometimes simply in the delight of awful filmmaking choices that unwittingly resonate with humor and pathos.

Some trainwrecks are fun to see. Some are not.

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Seemed possibly true since some people equate low-brow to “not good,” but…

Based on the above, I think we’re probably not disagreeing over the meaning of good. Like Clovis, I’m at a loss to understand the allure of bad filmmaking. But I suppose that conversation has been done.

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My kids loved it and cringed at the same time. One of my top 10.

It’s a genre. There are plenty of other genres you don’t like. I assume lol

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“Bad” is not a genre. And I do try not to box myself out of any genres, or forms of the medium, or sophistication levels, or anything, though certain categories like anime admittedly carry a noticeably lower hit rate than many for me. A good low-brow comedy like Zoolander is great; it’s smarter comedic minds than me cranking out one of the top examples of a certain type of movie.

But “they tried something and failed, haha” makes no sense to me as a draw.

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