Movies (and occasionally face slaps) (Part 2)

Perhaps eventually. I took the feedback ITT into account after saying that. I doubt I get to it soon.

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How about watching the worst Jason movies and skipping the best?

(I’m actually having trouble going through your posts and finding the movies I thought were undebatably goofy)

According to public consensus across all the aggregation sites, I watched the best ones and didn’t enjoy myself.

I have rehabbed quite a few movies this year on rewatch into much more positive opinions than I had before, so I definitely do give movies another chance even if they didn’t go well the first time. I don’t even think Hannibal is outright bad; I just think it’s a shrug. But it’s possible I’ll circle back to it eventually. It would help if I randomly ran across a scenario where, e.g., I’m staying in a hotel and it’s on one of the channels, but I can’t imagine it’s in any channel’s rotation at this point.

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Last Hoiday is a pretty good Thanksgiving movie even though it’s not really about Thanksgiving

Anybody else have favorite Thanksgiving movies?

Planes Trains and Automobiles

You know, THAT episode of The Bear.

Hannibal?

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Official expert Friday The 13th rankings:

Part 3
Part 2
Part 4: The Final Chapter
Part 6: Jason Lives
Part 5: A New Beginning
Jason X
Part 7: The New Blood
Part 1
Jason Goes To Hell
Part 8: Jason Takes Manhattan

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It’s just like my opinion man

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It certainly is an opinion

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Dan in Real Life is very good, though I completely forgot it’s set during Green Stuff Day.

ETA: Oh, that’s because it’s not set during Thanksgiving.

We’re giving Dan in Real Life an honorary Thanksgiving Day movie title simply because of the laughter, family, and Rhode Island fall foliage.

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Out of all the movies I could watch or see again, I have inexplicably chosen The Amazing Spider-Man.

I rescind my rights to call out LKJ for any of his viewing choices.

I don’t even know what there would be to call out. Aside from, I admit, Megalopolis, my process is pristine. I got what was coming to me for indulging Megalopolis.

(I haven’t watched any Andrew Garfield Spider-Man except for his part in No Way Home.)

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The way it was presented. I get the choice, “war through the eyes of one journalist,” but I didn’t think it really worked. I wanted to know how it all began, how it got to that point, the motivations of the various parties
and I never really found out. A bit of lazy exposition is all we were given. Also nowhere near enough President Ron Swanson despite dangling him in our faces to start the film. It felt like being dropped into chapter 12 of a book and then being dragged out again at the end of chapter 19.

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Heaven’s Gate (1980)

I find it odd that I grew up not really hearing of this movie as a historic box-office failure, only becoming aware of that much more recently. I heard a nearly endless string of potshots at Ishtar as I began to learn about movies, but never really heard this referenced; I guess, in the discourse of the time, Ishtar let Heaven’s Gate off the hook a little bit. Of course, even that mitigation in the discourse didn’t defray the financial catastrophe, but it does feel like it stopped getting the Ryan Leaf treatment for a time.

Anyway: the bones of this were good. Some elements very much worked. There were beautiful shots. Kris Kristofferson and Christopher Walken both turned in great performances. Kristofferson’s James Averill has a compelling character arc. On those positive traits alone, this movie does not deserve to be held up as any sort of catastrophic artistic failure even if its failure from a business standpoint is inarguable.

However, there’s no shortage of flaws to this movie either. It sets the movie up with some groundwork and a great hook for the main plot. The elites dehumanizing a group of immigrants and trying to crush them under their collective thumb seems to unfortunately be a timeless storyline that obviously remains incredibly relevant today. Setting that sort of story in late 19th-century Wyoming - one of the most naturally beautiful states in the US - had me excited. Unfortunately, the movie lets itself get bogged down in side quests that are never as compelling as the central narrative, and it hurts the pacing of the movie badly.

I will also note that Christopher Walken’s Nathan Champion gets a character arc that - despite Walken’s very best efforts - I couldn’t fully buy into. It’s hard to accept that any significant aspect of a movie could feel underdeveloped in 217 minutes, but that arc sort of did. Oh, and incidentally? Down with every single battle scene that features large numbers of people shooting at each other. That stuff is like catnip to too many directors, and it is consistently a thoroughly dull type of sequence to sit through, which is especially frustrating since I think that directors earnestly believe they’re doing something thrilling.

I respect the swing by Cimino. I wish it hadn’t bombed as spectacularly as it did. But I do think the film is pretty flawed as well.

3/5

@ctr123 Welcome to Shawshank.

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Alright, I was hoping you’d enjoy it more than 3* but this isn’t so bad


I watched Shawshank a few days ago. I hoped to like it but sadly I never really got into it. I dont want to be too negative bc I didn’t hate the experience, but it’s hard for me to understand how someone like you, who has seen so many movies, and whose opinion I side with most of the time, could think of it as one of the best of all time. It feels so damn cheesy to me

(Rating 2.5/5)

Btw Shawshank’s French title is “les Ă©vadĂ©s” (the escapees) which is both unmemorable and a pretty big spoiler lol. This is similar to the 1956 French classic “A man escaped” (whose title should be in present tense bc the whole runtime is about describing the process that leads to the escape). Saw it last month for the first time, now that one is my kind of movie


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This was so bad that I had to turn it off.

I moved ahead to The Amazing Spider-Man 2. I remember this being the worse of the two, but I can admit I was wrong. The suit is excellent, the web swinging scenes are great, the romance dialogue is way too improvised but kinda works.

The most laughable part is still Norman Osborne finding out he has a deadly disease that will kill him
after a long and prosperous life in old age? Just lol at that motivating him to become a super villain.

Welp. Guess I have to tip my cap, you had the right instincts about how you’d feel about it.

While I don’t really call Shawshank cheesy, I can see how someone would. In any case, I’m lactose-tolerant in my movie diet. After all, I also give five stars to this little number.

And this one.

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I grant that Shawshank isn’t the deepest movie on my favorites list - it’s pretty surface-level compared to some of the more layered movies - but man oh man does it land for me every time.

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Sacre bleu. This underwhelming reaction is kind of shocking.

Is this Rocky 1 or 2 ? I only saw the first one (and it was not at all what i expected i.e. much more about the ordinary life of working class ppl than boxing heroics).

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I kinda think it’s just a promotional pic not from any movie, but I was trying to signal the original. Rocky II is pretty far from a five-star movie; it’s fine, but it’s worse than III and IV.

Original Rocky is definitely lower on the cheese factor than its increasingly cartoonish successors, so I was kind of reaching for what looked like the cheesiest movies I give perfect scores to. I could have thrown in an Airplane reference, but “cheesy” didn’t seem like the right word for brilliant intentional slapstick.

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