Movies (and occasionally face slaps) (Part 2)

The Flash is absolutely not a terrible film

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Disagree

Great great job, Discovery. You sink oodles of cash into this shit but wonā€™t release Coyote vs. Acme which would have easily cleared its budget.

Just sheer incompetence.

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Oh man, no. Its very very bad.

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Just because you donā€™t like a movie doesnā€™t mean itā€™s terrible. It is not terrible by any standard. Not great, whatever, but itā€™s not terrible.

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Alright, I remembered you going to bat for this multiple times. I watched it now. Pretty good, certainly better than what I would have assumed it to be before you started stumping for it.

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Iā€™m with nunn. Itā€™s got some weird problems, but itā€™s good. A lot to like. Joker 2 seems to have a chance not even for faint praise.

Emma (1996)
gwenyth paltrow at her absolute peak of beauty. i think gwenyth paltrow in this movie is the best anyone has ever looked in any film ever. the vibes for this movie were heavy 1990s to me. the pacing of the camera shots and also the pacing of the dialogue and the film grain all felt very familiar, it looks a lot like the movies of this era. storyā€™s like whatever, itā€™s not a great story tbh but itā€™s old so people like it. iā€™d give it 2 bags but you gotta see gwenyth in this movie, if youā€™re a fan of beautiful women. youā€™re probably saying, ā€œiā€™ve already seen nicole kidman in Practical Magic (1998), iā€™ve already seen the most beautiful a woman has ever looked in a movieā€ and iā€™d say youā€™re right but give this one a try too. 3 bags of popcorn

Jane Austenā€™s Emma (1997)
i feel like this movie was more true to the original source material, which i have never read. and i feel that way because it was dull and slightly incomprehensible in terms of the dialogue, and i tend to associate those characteristics of adaptations with being true to some old timey standard. idk why they thought this movie was a good idea. they saw Emma (1996) and thought ā€œwow great concept but what if we removed all the attempts at mild humor?ā€. 1 bag of popcorn

Emma (2020)
bright colors, picturesque tableaus, lots of winks at the camera type jokes, this adaptation doesnā€™t take itself too seriously. the movie is shot in a way that everything looks beautiful, itā€™s a feast for the eyes. anna taylor joy is a lot more outwardly devious and scheming than the other Emmas. the filming style and cinematography is the most obvious difference between these three movies but it also gave me contrasting insight into the change in modern acting styles over the last 30 years, but thatā€™s certainly exaggerated here because theyā€™re being more goofy than the other adaptions and i think thatā€™s why this version works best of the three. 4 bags of popcorn

so that comes out to 2 2/3 bags of popcorn for Emma

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Oh hell yeah, LKJ kinda liked something I recommended. Legitimately happy about it

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If you havenā€™t seen Clueless, add that to the Emma mix.

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iā€™ve seen it of course but i had no idea it was related to emma lol but then again how could i have known, iā€™ve never seen any of these other emmas before yesterday. all four are on amazon prime which is neat. i donā€™t remember a piano scene in clueless but iā€™m in the zone rn iā€™m sure iā€™ll be able to catch all the references

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Saw Payback was on Youtube. Thought I would rewatch it for fun.

WTF

There is a version where Kris Kristofferson isnā€™t the final boss?

You probably donā€™t want to miss Battleship Potemkin (1925). Unmissable if youā€™re doing a 1920ā€™s dive. No idea which streaming platform has it. Have you seen the original King Kong btw?

Iā€™d recommend ā€œSunriseā€ (from Murnau after he moved to the US) feeling confident youā€™ll like it, his Faust is also good. Metropolis has a kinda dumb plot but incredible design so well worth watching.

From the Soviet side I really enjoyed ā€œman with a movie cameraā€ on a recent watch. Eiseinstein (battleship potemkin etc) has great historical significance and if you watch 2 min excerpts the editing style seems like the best thing ever but itā€™s a bit exhausting for a full movie.

Also not surprised to see The General in last, given that its plot is ā€œa chase one way, then backā€ which weā€™ve already established isnā€™t your thing :slight_smile:
(And seeing Sherlock Jr. so low, when I have it as a perfect movie, is a further data point that we have very different taste)

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Definitely have Battleship Potemkin on the list. Looks like itā€™s streaming everywhere; most of these should be public domain by now, so I think a lot of these that are this old just come down to whether theyā€™ve been preserved and whether the host sites feel itā€™s worth it to add them.

Yes to original King Kong. Great movie.

Appreciate the Sunrise rec; added to the list. I did wonder after Nosferatu if I should be looking into more of Murnauā€™s work. I actually nearly watched Man With a Movie Camera yesterday after Nosferatu just to get another 1920s movie in, but ended up diverting to something more modern with Psycho II. MWMC definitely on the list though.

Not sure why it is that Buster Keaton hasnā€™t clicked for me too well so far, but itā€™s only been two movies. I gather that part of it is that his stuff seems purely gag-based, whereas Chaplin was both hilarious and consistently delivered pathos in a way that I was probably missing from the Keaton comedies. I definitely intend to keep trying with Keaton.

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You should also check out The Big Parade. The Belleau Wood scene is extremely well done.

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King Kong is 1930ā€™s, not 1920ā€™s, if I can be nitpicky. Too many great 1930s movies to even know where to begin.

Yeah, I was surprised to see that Iā€™ve only seen 20 movies from that decade. Iā€™m sure thereā€™s a ton more to get to.

(Some of these may look low, but everything through Stagecoach at #14 is four stars or higher for me, so I think most of the list is great.)

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You start the 30s in the filmographies of Jimmy Cagney and Edward G. Robinson. Those two basically didnā€™t miss in that era.