I think you can make the case that video games and other more modern mediums are pretty fertile artistic grounds and would have been completely mind blowing to someone in the 70s or 80s.
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In my early 20âs in a bar like the one I was in last week? No, absolutely not. Like I said above, I wouldnât have been caught dead hanging out somewhere that was playing anything from the 70âs.
I think we went to very different bars.
Youâre kind of making my point for me. Look at the lineups from the first iteration of Lallapalooza shows. People were mad that Cheap Trick was on the stage one year. Or go further back and look at Woodstock. Sha Na Na was a parody act.
Yes, but would todayâs games have been mind blowing to somebody in 1999? Space Invaders was released in 1978. Imagine the reaction of somebody to that game in 1958.
Also, this game is now 36 years old:
Sorry, my understanding of retconning is when they do something in an n+1 episode that changes or erases something in an n episode. Here, it appears they claiming that the 2016 movie never happened. A cursory glimpse of the google suggests that is what is going on.
I think part of the phenomena is the easy accessibility of essentially all culture now. Twenty years ago you had to make some degree of effort to hear or see things. That easy availability, though, rather than making obscure things more visible, seems to have made the mainstream even more ubiquitous and homogeneous than previously. But itâs now also a smoothing out of popular culture from a longer period of time. I like to think the mind-blowing stuff is still out there, but the power of an international monoculture means it has a hard time breaking through at all.
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I too like to think the mind blowing stuff is still out there but after three walruses still havenât heard any. To the contrary in fact, most of the mind blowing walrus tracks have been older (though I accept the sample size and self selection problems with this example).
Itâs really complex though and the point about computer games is salient in that creative types who in a previous incarnation may have been involved in making mind blowing music are now possibly attracted to the gaming industry where they know their work will get an audience.
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Yeah, I mean I think what I think, but I also assume itâs completely compromised by being too old and too consumed by my own experiences. From films and other people it did seem like some folk grew up listening to classic stuff, but, like Zizak, that absolutely wasnât my experience. I remember thinking Sonic Youth were just too old in the late 90s, whereas the best thing I saw live this year featured Lee Ranaldo.
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Like all the good athletes in the USA arenât playing soccer?
I guess youâre saying thatâs about lack of money in football/soccer compared to American football.
With music thereâs still a huge amount of money in the business but the flattening of hierarchy - you can produce your own album in your bedroom and market it online via social media - means that the filter of critics is less relevant than ever before, which makes it hard for the public to find the mind blowing new music which in turn probably discourages some from entering the music biz.
The traditional biz set up of A&R people going to gigs, listening to demos etc and signing acts was highly flawed inevitably, but helped produce a lot of fantastic music brought to the publicâs greater attention by radio and positive critical reception. Itâs hard to see how the latter two find a decent chunk of new mind blowing music produced in peopleâs bedrooms.
It also presents a particular problem for people like me, who in general are suspicious of hierarchies, to get their heads around the idea that maybe a flattened âdemocratisationâ of the music-making/publishing process isnât such a good thing after all.
u get anything good today for Christmas?
I suspect I may be getting some decent new clothes later once weâve had breakfast (11:50am now lol) before I start doing the roast duck with orange/honey glaze.
What time is it there?
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early morning. central standard time is 6 hours earlier than you, so 5:51
east coast USA is 5 hours earlier, so 6:51 in NY
Isnât this the reaction weâd expect when old people listen to music young people are making? Like, my parents would have thought Tribe Called Quest was garbage and Iâm sure my grandparents thought Abbey Road was unlistenable.
I donât know if this thesis is right or wrong. I may have one of my children fact check this.
Whatâs new/revolutionary for kids nowadays is probably all stuff on the internet. No new movies, itâs all YouTubes, Vines, and stuff we donât know about. Thereâs probably some genre of 6 second songs that would blow the minds of anyone 20 years ago.
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I hated contemporary music when I was in HS in the 80s.
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Vines? Ok boomer. Itâs all TikTok now.
Which, by the way, I downloaded a few days ago. Complete and utter nonsense yet still habit forming.
So did I, and still do, mainly because the 80s were a terrible time for music.
TikTok? Isnât that the spyware developed for the Emerati secret police?
I donât hate a lot of it anymore. For example, I reflexively didnât like The Cure, but imo they are good.