Movie Night Watch Party Megathread

Wait for It might be my favorite song from the show. Definitely don’t understand people hating on Dear Theodosia last night.

Hell I might have to rewatch this thing tonight now after reading all the commentary last night.

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To be fair, I wasnt hating on Dear Theodosia. Its a beautiful song, and its song remarkably well… it’s just, you gotta have a least favorite song in a show and that one is mine. I just think the placement is weird and puts a big brake on the proceedings heading into the recap and intermission.

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If we are editing the show, I’m extracting the entire Maria Reynolds storyline, no matter how consequential it was.

Also, I’m probably insane but meb’s comment is making me want to put the show on again tonight.

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Let’s go

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It was our first sex scandal!

(honestly, more about Eliza’s orphanages would have been cool)

The Reynolds affair is necessary to the storyline of Burr scheming to harm Hamilton politically and making Burr seem like more of a villain.

Although it wasn’t the case historically, I also think the audience is fooled into thinking that perhaps George Eacker’s comments about Alexander Hamilton were related to Maria Reynolds, so it’s meant to feed into Philip dying, with Hamilton perceived as both causing the impetus for the duel and possibly giving bad advice on how to duel.

I’m sure plenty here know this but the election of 1800 was even more batshit than the play made it out.

Adams had narrowly defeated Jefferson in the 1796 election. Under the rules of the electoral system that were in place prior to the 1804 ratification of the 12th Amendment, each member of the Electoral College cast two votes, with no distinction made between electoral votes for president and electoral votes for vice president. As Jefferson received the second-most votes in 1796, he was elected vice president. In 1800, unlike in 1796, both parties formally nominated tickets. The Democratic-Republicans nominated a ticket consisting of Jefferson and Aaron Burr, while the Federalists nominated a ticket consisting of Adams and Charles C. Pinckney. Each party formed a plan in which one of their respective electors would vote for a third candidate or abstain so that their preferred presidential candidate (Adams for the Federalists and Jefferson for the Democratic-Republicans) would win one more vote than the party’s other nominee.

At the end of a long and bitter campaign, Jefferson and Burr each won 73 electoral votes, Adams won 65 electoral votes, and Pinckney won 64 electoral votes. The Federalists swept New England, the Democratic-Republicans dominated the South, and the parties split the Mid-Atlantic states of New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania. The Democratic-Republicans’ failure to execute their plan to award Jefferson one more vote than Burr resulted in a tie, which necessitated a contingent election in the House of Representatives. Under the terms laid out in the Constitution, the outgoing House of Representatives chose between Jefferson and Burr. Each state delegation cast one vote, and a victory in the contingent election required one candidate to win a majority of the state delegations. Neither Burr nor Jefferson was able to win on the first 35 ballots of the contingent election, as most Federalist Congressmen backed Burr and all Democratic-Republican Congressmen backed Jefferson. Hamilton personally favored Jefferson over Burr, and he convinced several Federalists to switch their support to Jefferson, giving Jefferson a victory on the 36th ballot of the contingent election.

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Say no to this is really good though. Like a dozen amazing lines in it.

One thing that makes this show great

They have an act one closing number

The world turned upside down

In any other play, that ends after 1. It’s amazing

But here it’s just another great song in a string of really great songs.

Dear T is a little slow and boring but it shows the family side and the parallels between both leads

This show wouldn’t be as good if you took out the military or family or love portions. It all works together.

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Presidential elections as a whole in the early 1800s were pretty crazy. Definitely an interesting time period of history to study for those unfamiliar with it.

As it relates to Hamilton. Burr’s place in history pretty much got wiped out because of bad blood from the Jefferson wing of politics over the 1800 election and then bad blood over him killing Hamilton in the duel. Ironically, Hamilton the musical does more to tell Burr’s story than what anyone would usually learn of him in standard US history education.

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Wait for it is my favorite as well, especially because it starts slow and you have to “wait for it” to pick up until it reaches a crescendo

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I like when Hamilton mocks burr later on during the room where it happens by using that phrase

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The rewatch is definitely happening. Just warning in advance in case I start posting randomly about it.

Side note for the guys: tell your wife or girlfriend, if you have one, that you want to watch Hamilton with her. Get all the bonus points.

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I can’t be the only one who was reminded by Burr of Judas in Jesus Christ Superstar. And George III echoed King Herod.

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King George pre-show announcement is outstanding.

Thank you and enjoy my show

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Hercules Mulligan, minor historical figure but GOAT historical name.

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A message from the King!

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Serious question, how does Jonathan Groff go so long without blinking? It’s incredible.

Random historical interjection here. From what I’ve read it’s far more likely Hamilton wanted Angelica than the other way around.

REWIND! though, club mix time.