It’s a political forum let the political discussion run free.
I plan on calling racist behavior racist, deplorable behavior deplorable and facsist behavior fascist.
We no longer have the luxury to pull punches and take the high road while the opposition steamrolls it’s way to authoritarian domination on a global scale.
If some yahoo shows up extolling the virtues of St. tRUmp and the immaculate republican party you bet your ass I will commence the dunking forthwith.
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You should stop lecturing American about US politics. I wouldn’t dare lecture you about Russian politics, and I do have some knowledge about them.
Where do you stand on pirated content?
It was not uncommon to see a question from posters outside the US on how to view a debate for example. If there is no official stream they can watch is it okay to point them to other options?
What if instead of a debate it’s the Oscars, the Superbowl or The Wire?
I can’t imagine we (or I) would be liable for another user linking to content hosted somewhere else. Worst case scenario is we’d get a takedown request/demand. The community can of course decide not to allow that sort of thing, but it isn’t something I feel the need to prohibit administratively.
Come on. There’s enough to criticize about her position without resorting to “Go back to where you came from”.
She grew up in the USSR and Germany and her English is good, but far from perfect. I haven’t ever noticed her even saying that she’s been to the United States. I don’t think suggesting that her understanding of Americans and American politics is incomplete is the same thing as telling her to go home.
Except I wasn’t telling her to go back home or even stop stating her opinions. What I mean by lecturing is telling people from another country how they should approach the opposition.
Yeah, this is bad. “You’re not from here, keep your opinions to yourself” is a bad take. You even strangely clarify that you know some things about Russia but wouldn’t give an opinion on Russian politics because you aren’t Russian.
I don’t think you mean this in a xenophobic manner, but it comes off that way.
*edit: You say that she is allowed an opinion but shouldn’t lecture. Maybe my problem is that I don’t understand what distinction you are trying to make.
You do realize if you go to Ireland and talk about the IRA in a pub of locals, it will piss people off, right?
And the distinction is there’s no problem in criticizing the US or having opinions on what’s going on here, it’s telling people how to feel about Trump supporters (people who a lot of us view are actively helping disrupt lives) whether they’re nice or not. That’s what I’m referring to by lecturing.
I agree that people often feel this way…because of xenophobia. “You lack information, hush” is very different than, “You aren’t from here, hush.”
I don’t see your clarification making a distinction between having an opinion and lecturing. The IRA locals wouldn’t either.
You’re either being purposefully obtuse or not skipping past “telling people how they should feel.”
I would also point out I only said anything because jbro or someone was getting really irritated by it.
I’m not sure we’re making progress. You seem to be posting quickly and imprecisely. I see no important distinction between expressing an opinion and telling people how to feel.
And now the software is telling me to stop replying…lol
I guess I’ll leave it for now.
I think it’s fine people from different countries having opinions about other countries politics but it’s also hard to really gauge how a country is without having visited there. I think America is slightly different because there’s so much American tv and it’s so ingrained in popular culture. Anyway having said that I am still going to comment on American politics because you bastids have so many nuclear weapons! Any country holding that much power needs to be criticised if they’re going off the rails.
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Actually now I am thinking that I have very strong opinions about North Korea and I am pretty likely to never visit there! oh well
Skipping over some crap I don’t want to get involved with,
I don’t think we should censor swear words. I’d listen to a case on slurs, but slurs could also be handled just by banning people and deleting posts rather than by censoring posts which leaves ambiguity about what was said. Profanity filters can be great tools against spammers, however, so it may be worth installing one for that even if we don’t use it for its stated purpose.
Nudity and porn, like, on the one hand we don’t have to be super prudish, but on the other, there is more porn on the internet than one could possibly consume in a lifetime, and there is no niche we could possibly fill that is otherwise unmet. Given that hosting such content is more likely to limit users and participation than it is to bring them (and those that it would bring specifically for that purpose are more than likely to be undesirable), I think we should generally shun nudity or sexual content that has as its primary purpose titillation, even if nudity in certain contexts (say, topless protestors, pictures from a pride parade, certain artistic content) is acceptable as long as it’s appropriately labeled and possibly behind spoiler tags as appropriate.
Avatars should be SFW as they can be encountered in any thread without warning.
Gore and violence is innate to politics and as such should be allowed, but only when appropriately labeled and spoilered. Posting violent images or videos with the primary purpose of upsetting or shocking people without some sort of greater political context should be moderated.
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Should we take our talents to this thread now? I think the most efficient way to do this is to start from what some of us in good faith think is way beyond the line, and then work our way down to gray areas. For example, I don’t see much of a point discussing whether “god please die of a heart attack” is sanctionable (gray area, low content, I don’t like to see it, but permissible) before we agree, if we agree, that “Wouldn’t it be nice if every member of group x were rounded up, hung, eviscerated, beheaded, and quartered, and also if the rarest and most painful cancers were visited upon their children” is sanctionable/bannable.
I very much doubt we can catch anything like this in a neat rule, that’s why it will be up to the judgment calls of the mods most of the time.
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How about the mods actually listen to/have respect for the community they’re moderating for? Can that be a rule?
Like if they ask if a poster should eat a ban, and the community says no, you don’t go ahead and do it anyway for reasons.
You want to discuss if the question should have been asked to start with? Fine. But when a mod asks a question and then ignores the answer, they’re not serving the community as they promised to.
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I’m trying to start a broader discussion about what posts are too egregious here. I’m pretty sure cuse said he welcomes the community having a poll about him no longer being a mod over his decisions, but since there are no articulated standards for moderation, I think mostly everybody is saying that he is free to exercise his judgment.
Think there is also room to have a more fundamental discussion about what a mods job is and whether or not a mod should ignore the expressed opinion of the community.
No one is asking for him to be demodded. Just to respect the wishes of the community.