Major League Baseball (Part 2)

I keep trying not to.

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just watching these clips of ohtani last night and jesus christ pitching to him must be the most humiliating experience possible for a big league pitcher

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saw a hater that said it really well that you can’t simultaneously mock the dodgers for so many years for “choking” since 2012 when the team was bought for spending so much money picking up pieces, and then turn around and blame them for that. you simply cant have it both ways if youre an mlb fan. lets enter our villain era. we’ve been taking it on the chin for 15 years now. fuck all yall poverty franchises. deal with it

freddie freeman - traded from braves. didnt want him.

mookie betts - traded from red sox as part of a salary dump.

tommy edman - traded. becomes amazing when he reaches la.

ohtani - free agency, angels didnt want him.

glasnow - seen as injury prone. traded.

snell - free agent from their biggest rivals.

multiple players brought up through farm system. it’s just a better team. better coaching. better scouting. more heart. players wanna be there. the sooner you accept that the better. go world series 2025. dynasty through the 2030’s

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I don’t think anyone hates the dodgers for anything nefarious, it’s just generally not fun to see the same team win all the time. Especially when the salary system in MLB is so broken. It’s not anything like the hatred for my team the Astros for example. I do think that is the right attitude to have though about it, I sometimes wonder why some teams fans like the Chiefs don’t like to embrace the hate. Baseball is very lucky their game is so random, otherwise it would be so much worse. Though maybe that’s why it hasn’t been addressed yet.

lol fuck right off with this. Angels couldn’t afford him.

Freeman wasn’t traded.

Betts was traded because he wouldn’t sign an extension with Boston. That’s because the LAD were going to pay him more. He was signed to the richest contract in dodger history soon after the move.

Just silly stuff here.

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don’t try and take this from him. rooting for whores (and not the good kind) is all he has

The funny bit is that I don’t even give a shit about the Dodgers being a mega team. Good for them having owners willing to pay very good players a lot of money. Wouldn’t bother me a second if it was my team.

It clearly bothers him though, which is why he fabricates that bullshit like the Angels didn’t want Ohtani come the fuck on bro.

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Being able to defer $680m is stupid as hell.

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the diamondbacks deferred $250 million in 00’s salary and won a world series. no one batted an eye. also, that number is made up.

the blue jays paid vladdy $325 million up front. maybe are gonna lose to the lol mariners. the game has better parity than every other sport.

even now the dodgers could easily get swept in the ws. it’s a beautiful game.

I’d posit it has the worst out of any professional sport and is just saved by the fact that baseball is just naturally more random. Even with that the Dodgers and Astros after this year will have won half the rings this decade and participated in almost every NLCS/ALCS

Like if you top to bottom ranked every player 1…N and took the average of each team, baseball has to be incredibly bad - and that’s given the structural advantages of having 20+ man rosters!

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Another way to put it, the Sabres, Jets and Jazz are far, far, far more likely to win their respective sports in the next decade than the Pirates or As, in sports where the better team wins far more often.

Nuclear take.

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The thing that people forget about the money disparity in baseball is that it’s not just that the richest teams can buy whoever they want (or trade for and sign to an extension whoever they want or not have to trade away/not re-sign their star players, etc.). It’s that they can afford to make mistakes.

Obviously money doesn’t guarantee championships or even playoffs (hello Mets) and lack of money doesn’t mean you’re always a cellar-dweller (Brewers, Rays). But money does mean that you can take big swings and not really worry about them not panning out because hey, you can just go spend more money.

If the Brewers, for example (and this obviously applies to other small market/lower budget teams), sign a star to a lucrative, long-term deal and then he gets hurt or stinks, they’re hamstrung for years. If, say, a big-money guy on the Dodgers or Yankees turns out to be awful, of course it’s a blow to the team, but they can go get the next guy.

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I get that there’s not true parity in any sport, because ownership caring about rangz and not just making easy money matters a ton, even in leagues with salary caps AND salary floors. And of course, Jerruh insists that I add the further caveat that ownership has to care enough about success to leave sports decisions to the most qualified sports people. I’ve lived through this quite poignantly, as the transition in the Seahawks’ success between Behring and Allen could not have been more stark. Relatedly, as much as the NFL is structured to drive teams towards mediocrity with the draft and the salary cap, the Jets, Raiders, Browns, and Bengals are just in terrible ownership situations that they probably won’t dig themselves out of without changes in ownership. The Lions were in this shitpool, too, but low and behold what giving a shit can do. Begrudging a team for having ownership that gives a shit is generally just wishcasting that your team had ownership that did.

Still, even while the NFL doesn’t exactly have perfect parity, there’s not really an equivalence in other sports to how, e.g. there was a decades’ spanning streak where at least one team would go from worst to first in its division in consecutive years. It’s been broken now, but there’s still no sport close.

It’s also pretty obvious that there’s no equivalent major sport where buying a championship is as possible compared with baseball. One could argue that the Rams did a pretty good job of it in 2021-2022, but they didn’t just do it with money. They did it with draft stock. @dlk9s is exactly right that no rich baseball team gets fucked with a bad contract like the Browns got fucked with QB Happy Endings. As a Steph Curry fan, I’ve enjoyed the Warriors being more than willing to spend well into the luxury tax to bring in free agents to supplement home grown talent, but MLB doesn’t even bother applying anything equivalent to that luxury tax. Sure, the Warriors don’t win 4 rangz without drafting Curry, Thompson, and Green, but they might only have 1 if they’re not spending way into the luxury tax. Money matters. It can be used to buy great players that teams with less money cannot.

Not enough lolz in the world for the notion that the Angels “didn’t want” Ohtani. They wanted him desperately. They paid a shitload to get him in the first place. They “didn’t want” to re-up him in free agency in the same way I “didn’t want” a $25 million mansion in Atherton. If I had that kinda money, I probably wouldn’t be in Portland right now. There’s not a team in MLB that turns him down for $10 milly/yr.

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angels absolutely couldve afforded ohtani. there’s a story out there right now that the AC in their weight room has been broken all year and they wont fix it.