I burst into uncontrollable laughter every time I hear the lead of that play sing TERRORIST ACTION in that thiiiick accent. Such an absurd line to ever hear in a musical number.
There is documentary about this on prime which is excellent. Itās a truly awesome story.
The tickets were a gift and I walked into the story completely blind. Had no idea about any of this and Iāve been a bit consumed and reading about it all morning. Iāll check out the doc too. Thanks
Or watch the Brokaw bit about it on Youtube.
20cm sounds like a little to this narcissistic American.
Seen it three times, twice on Broadway and once in Toronto. Loved it more each time. Itās incredibly moving.
30-second timelapse of 24 hours of snowfall in Newfoundland
https://imgur.com/r/gifs/UYmCVwS
Thatās a lot of snow.
This is really stupid. The elected officials from each of those bands signed off on the pipeline.
If companies canāt accept the sign off of elected chiefs itās equivalent of giving every single First Nation person a line item veto on all development inside Canada. Literally nothing will ever be built again.
The left is really dumb to be supporting this. Itās terrible.
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Protest fine. Iām all for protest. But they are subject to all the same laws as any other protest. They donāt get to stop all rail travel in a nation anymore than any other protest would be allowed.
My Twitter is blowing up with blind support because āthe big bad oil companyā is obviously wrong even though they consulted extensively and got the consent of every effected First Nation.
So many normally sane people on Twitter basically arguing that EVERY First Nation person should have to consent.
clovis, what percentage of your companyās revenue comes from the oil and gas industry?
Exactly what should the company do? Whose consent should they get?
Do you even know how consultation works?
Lol just lol.
You canāt argue on the merits so it must be Iām blinded by money.
For the record, I run and environmental consulting company. I make money by protecting the environment, all day every day. Yes some of my clients are oil and gas companies. I also work with and for several First Nations.
In other words, maybe I know something about this other than āall oil and gas companies and employees are inherently evil and no matter what effort they make to gain stakeholders consent itās is irrelevant because all oil and gas companies, and everyone who works for them, is inherently evilā.
I ask again, WHAT SHOULD THE COMPANY DO TO GET CONSENT? tell me exactly what they should have done.
Iām going to take a flier and bet zizak has never set foot on a single reserve, knows zero First Nations people, and has never worked with a First Nation in his life.
Iāve been doing so for 20 years.
But Iām a money hungry capitalist who wants to pollute the world.
Fuck you zizak. Fuck you.
Edit: removed ggoreo as his comments were fair but seriously fuck you zizak.
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Calm down.
My guess is that the automatic support isnāt so much about first nations as it is about blocking a pipelineā¦ and making trouble for āthe systemā. Iām sympathetic to the claim that blocking any new pipeline development is a good thingā¦
But yeah obviously I can see where youāre coming from. It sounds like the pipeline development company did what it would supposed to, and the elected officials of the bands fucked the oil company by giving their consent but not actually securing the consent of their rank and file.
Your argument has some merit for sure, but there is definitely a legitimate moral argument (if not legal argument) that the political power of the indigenous elected councils is the fruit of the poisonous tree. If I understand my Canadian history correctly, the power of those councils to act on behalf of the indigenous nations is derived from the Indian Act. There is a totally legitimate case to be made that the Indian Act itself has no moral authority. When people complain about the insidious long term mistreatment of natives in Canada, the Indian Act imposed on them by colonists is a big part of that.
So while I am not diametrically opposed to what youāre saying, I think itās kind of circular and misses the point. The movement around indigenous rights in Canada is largely about how the legal structures that were built by white people were a) not really fair in the first instance and b) not really honored by white Canadians. So to turn around and say that in this instance native Canadians have to accept the ārule of lawā is the kind of asymmetrical power application that people are fighting against.
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I honestly feel like Iām in bizzaro world with The universal agreement that large midstream pipelines are the worst thing about oil and gas development. They are literally one of the most environmental sensitive ways to transport hydrocarbons.
Iām sympathetic to the idea they are a symbolic target but people donāt ever make that claim. Itās fact that many times more kilometres of pipeline is built every single year than the sum of all large midstream pipes. All that pipe never gets protested or even intervened at the regulatory process. They all engage in First Nation consultation without issue.
For some reason the environmental movement has chosen 4 random pipelines as ā all that is evil about oil and gasā.
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I suspect they just want to draw attention to it and cause as much trouble as possible. So they are going to support whatever protests seem to be gaining traction.
Iām also not a Canadian and know next to nothing about Canadian politics or history beyond the very very broad strokes. Iām just commenting on what appears to be happening in this specific situation.
I will say that new oil/gas development always rubs me the wrong way, because once that cost is in the ground itās generally going to be used to justify additional production in the future instead of other forms of energy production.