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nationalizing grocery stores!!??!! oh my. it must be quite a slippery slope from that one grocery store.

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What if we call him a communist and ask him to denounce Hamas?

Gotta take an occasional stray shot at Bernie. Its requied by the centrist handbook. And in hindsight, it’s now clear how wrong Bernie was and how right the eDems were, so it does make sense.

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A balanced discussion of the grocery store thing.

Ah yes, a disaster for the party who lost to DJT 2/3 times and barely squeaked by the one time they won. They were really firing on all cylinders before Mamdani came along and ruined everything!

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Paywalled unfortunately.

There’s always room for things to get worse

link to get around the paywall: https://archive.ph/iCMiq

His grocery store shit is dumb but it sure as shit isn’t nationalized grocery stores dumb come on now

Maybe take it up with the folks who thought running a billionaire nepo baby sex pest was a great idea. Also, no one is proposing “nationalizing grocery stores.”

What?

Not sure what level you’re on here? Are we joking that DJT won in 2020 or are we saying that winning the electoral college by 45k votes in the tipping point states is not squeaking by?

North Dakota has had a profitable public bank operating for 106 years and hasn’t become a Stalinist hellhole. Why can’t NYC have a public grocery store?

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Big grocery apologists ITT

When I was in the grocery business it was one of the lowest margin industries in existence. Net margins for the markets I was in was less than 1.5%. That is with high margin categories mixed in. The low margin grocery side has very little room for lower costs, at least it did when I was working in the industry. I just don’t know how much room there is to lower prices on food.

This may be a statement of incredible ignorance/privilege, but it’s hard for me to think about areas that desperately need something like this. Here’s a “grocery store” search in the South Bronx, among the lowest income ZIPs in the city. Hard to go a few blocks without finding something. Some of these are bodegas which don’t really count, but I zoomed in and found even more, including an ALDI. (I want an ALDI!) Plus a lot of areas have street fruit/vegetable vendors. Perhaps some areas of Staten Island, but I did a similar search there and it didn’t seem terrible.

Has anyone seen what he is actually proposing or just assuming from the quote what it a public grocery store is?

He has said a trial of 1 publicly-owned grocery story in each borough.

From his website:

Food prices are out of control. Nearly 9 in 10 New Yorkers say the cost of groceries is rising faster than their income. Only the very wealthiest aren’t feeling squeezed at the register.

As Mayor, Zohran will create a network of city-owned grocery stores focused on keeping prices low, not making a profit. Without having to pay rent or property taxes, they will reduce overhead and pass on savings to shoppers. They will buy and sell at wholesale prices, centralize warehousing and distribution, and partner with local neighborhoods on products and sourcing. With New York City already spending millions of dollars to subsidize private grocery store operators (which are not even required to take SNAP/WIC!), we should redirect public money to a real “public option.”

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NYC could probably cheat and open them on property the city already owns. They own 14000+ properties.