When someone breaks into your home, you have no idea what their true intentions are. There’s a very real threat on your life when someone breaks into your home.
Your employer stealing money from you is not relevant. You’re not going to be stabbed by them withholding things from your paycheck.
Under most circumstances if someone has broken into your house while you are there you clearly have a reasonable fear for your life. That is a separate issue.
I wasn’t asking you. I was asking cactus because he was saying that at least it was the burglar’s fault that they got shot presumably because they were stealing.
Clovis didn’t say they get a free pass. He said they don’t deserve to die. Apparently you disagree with him. Apparently you don’t think it’s just about defending yourself, you think they deserve to die.
Obviously this. All the centrists are just accepting that there is nothing between letting them rob you and killing them.
I think in most States in the US and in most cases the law is fairly reasonable and you are allowed to reasonable force. If you have a weapon and they have a weapon, you’re probably not going to get charged with anything if you shoot them. If you shoot them in the back as they are running out, you are likely to be charged with murder.
I don’t think they deserve to die any more than I think a drunk deserves to die if they get in a car accident while driving recklessly. It’s still their fault, and they don’t get a pass.
But also, cactus didn’t, and I don’t think anyone did say that they deserve to die, at least not until Ikes disagreed with you when you said they didn’t deserve to die.
But Clovis didn’t say they get a pass. You invented that.
Yes he did. No one has talked about how robbers deserve to die, that was him mischaracterizing other people’s position. He was using the fact that people who break into homes aren’t well off to excuse their actions and criticize people defending themselves.
Dude you are a terrible reader. He did not say get a pass. Absolutely nothing he said is inconsistent with the idea that a poor person stealing is still committing a crime. I guess you just got your jimmies rustled because he expressed some sympathy for them.
Jesus christ he didn’t say get a pass nor was he expressing that view. Read the post again. My god
Clovis thinks that acting in self defense against someone invading your home is the same as deserves to die, and then expressing that he can’t believe that liberals are ok with self defense against poor people. It’s a pass.
Clovis is welcome to clarify if he thinks my characterization of his beliefs are wrong.
What if you live with your flaming gay boyfriend?
He already clarified that in a later post, but understanding it is beyond your abilities.
I’m sorry what? I haven’t taken this position whatsoever tyvm.
No, I am not. You don’t seem to know what a death sentence is.
You’re right he added on! He confirmed that my interpretation was correct.
And look kerowo is taking the same position!
I told you that you weren’t capable of understanding it and I was right. Honestly, you’re a very very bad reader.
Didn’t you say the homeowner is justified in killing someone during a B&E? That implies to me that breaking and entering is punishable by death.