Let's Try and Qualify for USA Curling Arena Nationals

Ok going to give this a spin. Why not. It will be a good way to do something I don’t often do a good job of, which is journaling parts of my life. I figured I will start with a little background.

Like I assume a lot of people I was fascinated by curling in the olympics in the 2000s/2010s with all of the Shuster runs that were mostly failures. I never dreamed I would ever curl myself living in Kansas and Oklahoma. Fun fact Kansas is, I believe, the only state in the US without a single curling club at this point. Christmas of 2017 rolls around, was before the olympics had started that year and my BIL was hosting. He asks my wife and I if we would be ok letting him crash at our house when he came down in a few weeks and did a learn to curl. We were both like dude there is no curling in OKC. He pulls the website up. Interesting. There is a curling club that curls on hockey ice. So we sign up with him. The US actually wins the gold at about 4am the night before we were supposed to go to the learn to curl. We got instantly hooked.

So we start curling the local league in Spring of 2018. We were very very bad in hindsight like everyone is. And honestly that was ok because there were very few decent curlers in our curling club at that point. And unfortunately the few people who knew anything weren’t really the types who would teach you anything. That is not normal for curling people. They are mostly friendly and open to helping newer curlers any way they could. Our club is better about that now by a lot but it really wasn’t then. We really weren’t taking it at all seriously then and that’s fine. A lot of people don’t.

In the fall of 2019 we go to our first bonspiel which is basically an out of town curling party hosted by a club that people travel around from all over to attend. Basically a full weekend of curling and socializing. Typically with a fair amount of drinking. I was hooked. It didn’t hurt we played another team of new people the first game and actually managed to win. The rest of the weekend we got blown out but we really didn’t care. Then COVID happens. We don’t curl again until Fall of 2021.

When we came back my wife and I decided that if we were going to keep curling we should actually try and see how good we could get. She was a very good Track and Field athlete, competing the Jr. Olympics growing up and through college. I had grown up playing golf competitively until ultimately flaming out. We both missed the competitive side of things and decided we should see how far we could go with it. At the time we really didn’t know how to do that. We had no coach, no knowledge on how to get coaching, etc. So we started just curling as much as we could. Curling back to back leagues at home on Sundays, which was all we had, and also traveling to about 9-10 bonspiels a year.

Success, as you would imagine, was fleeting at first. But slowly we started to win more and more. We also met people from out of town who were willing to teach us and informally coach us how to not suck. They would go with us and play with us for a whole weekend and answer questions we had or gently give us advice on how to get better. That, more than anything, changed everything for us. It has, most importantly, resulted in a lot of lifelong type friends all over the place. And also it has given us an avenue to get better that felt like we had no idea how to achieve before. We also met an actual coach at one of these bonspiels who was willing to have us out to his curling club for an entire weekend and give us some private coaching for next to free.

It felt like overnight, about a year ago I went from being someone who’s teams were struggling to go over .500 in OKC leagues and playing 2nd or 3rd was suddenly skipping most of my teams and barely ever losing at home and able to take that show on the road with much greater levels of success. In 2025 I went 24-13-1 over 10 events out of town and made it to several event finals, although I lost each time in this situation. 2026 has had similar results so far. 2 short years before I was setting a goal to win an event final and my spouse told me that was probably an impossible goal. Going out of town to curl is hard because there are quite a few curlers that have been curling since they were kids so beating those teams with a group of misfits who started curling in their 30s in OKC is not easy.

Last year we attempted to qualify for Arena Nationals which is basically the highest level of event for “Arena” curlers in the country. That means you play primarily on hockey ice rather than at a facility that is built and designed for curling. There are 10 regions and somewhere in the ballpark of 100 arena curling clubs in the US, which makes up about half of the total curling clubs. Each region has a playdown to determine their representative at nationals. There are two other spots given to the defending champ and also there is a last-chance event that anyone from any region can play in to get the last spot.

We went into the event last year with a men’s team of 5, including the alternate, that had very little experience both playing together and playing at that level. Our region is generally one of the toughest regions because it has some of the biggest curling clubs in the region, with Omaha being the biggest, and Houston, Dallas and Austin always being quite large. For mens our region has won Arena nationals almost every year it has existed. Last year our region actually finished 1/2 at men’s nationals with one team also getting in through the last chance. So winning our region is actually tougher than the national event. They do peer seeding before the event with each team submitting a ranking of the other entrants. I was happily surprised to see our team ranked 5 of 10 last year going in. I felt like that showed a decent amount of respect for the amount of regional events we had been to and some modest success in them. We ultimately made it out of pool play losing the first playoff game by 1, with a badly timed burned stone in the last end that ultimately lost us the game. We were all upset but proud of how we had done.

The real push for this actually started a month or so ago. We had a bonspiel in Omaha that I skipped we went 3-1 to end up in the 2nd event final which we ultimately lost on a tiebreaker shot to the button after making a huge comeback from 7-2 down in the last few ends. That spiel is on arena ice so generally speaking one of the easier spiels but not particularly easy for an arena spiel imo. The other game we had lost in the earlier rounds was also by 1 where the other team made a do or die shot to win the game on the last stone. We also went to a cashspiel last weekend at Rock Creek in Denver. That is on dedicated ice so in and of itself a tougher field on average. A cashspiel also has prize money. We ended up going 2-2 in that falling one game short of the money. We lost to an U18 team in the last game that had made US Nationals 3 years in a row and are now in the process of aging out. It was not close lol.

I’ve already gone way too long but here is the schedule I have left prior to playdowns in July. There might be an addition or two as well to this prior but this is what I have locked in. Most of these I am not playing with my actual playdowns team, which is a subject I’ll have to leave for another post:
-Tulsa - this weekend
-Austin - Memorial Day weekend
-Dallas - July 9-12 - Probably streamed
-MACA Playdowns - Blaine, MN - July 23-26 - Definitely streamed

Nationals are in November so if we qualify(or even if we don’t) there will be some curling between playdowns and there as well. Oh ya and my undefeated league team goes for the league championship at our home club tomorrow night as well.

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Great idea for a thread!

I’ll be following, gl in the tournament.

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I curled once, a week before I had surgery for a hip injury so at the time it was not particularly easy for me to get low for the push. It was fun and I’ve entertained the idea of giving it another shot since. Maybe someday. Good luck in your tournaments, I’m looking forward to following along.

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So I assume the distinction with arena is that you’re just in a regular rink surfaces by zambonis instead of the “pebbled” ice on a dedicated curling sheet?

If so, what does that mean for your shooting? Can you be good on both surfaces?

That movement, especially when first starting, is quite awkward. If you are interested in doing it but worry about the physical toll especially with a hip replacement then you might google “stick curling”. It is an allowed way to curl without ever leaving the standing position. It is allowed at all events below the highest level and is allowed at all events I play in.

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We do pebble the ice before each session so the actual surface is quite similar. The main difference is that dedicated facilities have specialized equipment and in many cases a full time paid ice guy that spends a ton of time putting the ice in and maintaining it. So it is ultra flat in most cases. On arena ice, the rinks are never flat and constantly changing depending on the zam. So part of the skill is in reading the ice from week to week and in some cases from end to end.

The other main difference is that curling facilities tend to use better water and have better climate control and as a result the ice tends to be faster and less “frosty”. So going from arena to dedicated it actually gets easier as far as line goes. But it can be harder as far as weight control because the ice is quite a bit faster. Throwing a draw on our home ice would be maybe 40 feet long at a good facility? Maybe more in some cases. Often times this is a hard adjustment going back and forth between the two.

Hell yeah

Wow, that’s insanely interesting and kind of cool.

Means you can always blame the ice!

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I just had a repair, not a replacement. So I should be pretty ok with the movement now and I am active/athletic. I hate the cold though so maybe an ice sport wouldn’t be ideal lol.

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You will be sweating out there sweeping so I would not worry about the cold. I curl in shorts and a t-shirt some events if the facility I’m at is a tiny bit warmer than usual.

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How much yelling do you do? YEEEEEEEP YEEEEEEEP HAAAAAAAAAAAARD

Looking forward to following this, good luck!

I tried out curling one year, I was truly awful at throwing but loved sweeping. Then I slipped and fell backward onto the ice while sweeping and gave myself a small concussion. That was the end of my curling career.

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I’m not a big yeller but you have to do some. The important thing is to communicate. Your skip should be calling sweeping for line only unless the weight is blatantly wrong. The sweepers job is to measure speed throughout the game and sweep for weight. The skip and the sweepers need to be communicating what they think needs to be happening throughout the shot to get the desired outcome.

Falling and hurting yourself is unfortunately a part of the game and you see it happen even at the very highest levels. So far I have a fall that resulted in a C6/C7 injury back in 2022. That one almost resulted in needing to have surgery but was able to get by with injections and now only have minor pain. I also managed to fall once probably very similarly to you and hit the back of my head for a concussion.

Ice is very hard and unforgiving and especially when you get curling shoes you are sliding around on a shoe that has a teflon slider on one foot. I don’t think I ever make it an entire weekend of curling without seeing someone take a nasty fall. The chance of falling goes way down at a dedicated facility also because the surface is much more uniform. At an arena the surface is all over the place from swept down to frosty and everything in between. Both of my bad falls were at hockey rinks on a hot day where the surface got slicker than normal.

Great OP, but I had to read this a couple of times before I remembered that “skipped” is some fancy curling jargon.

Couldn’t figure out how you were describing the details of an event you did not even attend! :joy:

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Undefeated Wednesday night league champ achieved. Won the final 12-2. Still have one league with 3 weeks left at home but we are in trouble at 3-2 because we traveled two weeks for out of town stuff and forfeited. Massive trophy so I am obviously a very big deal :wink:

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Link to the Tulsa spiel draw schedule and I believe there will be live scores. We are House Hoggers and are playing 730pm Friday game 1. I have 3 very new curlers (my 3rd has 1.5 years and 2nd and lead have .5 years) so we shall see how this goes. I’m going to need to have a good weekend for us to do damage. That being said taking newer curlers to spiels has been massive for the growth of our club and this is two of the players 1st spiel and one of the players 2nd.

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11-2 win for the House Hoggers vs a DFW team last night. On to the next vs. a Tulsa team playing home ice at 1pm cst today.

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G2 10-3. A event semis in half an hour. If we win we play maybe a Swiss bronze medalist(if they also win their semi).

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Why are y’all this good?