LC Thread 2020: What the PUNK? ROCK.

I feel like Nirvana was considered classic rock nearly a decade ago.

Pretty sure I heard “How You Remind Me” on a classic rock station recently.

I’d say that would be my second favourite musical time period for sure.

FYI if you haven’t seen it, there was a similarly-themed movie released in 2014 starring Reese Witherspoon called Wild that was very good as well (better than Into the Wild from a strictly cinematic point of view imho). It’s also based on a true story. That woman (Cheryl Strayed) wasn’t dropping out of society completely, though, she was hiking the Pacific Crest Trail and had almost no experience. It was more of a loss/redemption story and she got help along the way but it’s worth your two hours.

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You just mentioned Nirvana and Nickleback in same post! You might get banned. Nice knowing you. :grin:

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I read the book. I’m shocked that a decent movie was made from it. I guess as an experienced hiker and mountaineer my perspective is probably different than a lot of people because I pretty much concluded she was a complete moron. IIRC she also was really self-centered, treated other people horribly, and did off the wall weird shit like eat her mothers ashes.

Somebody actually wrote a parody of her book.

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Someone not “around” in the mid 60s to mid 70s saying that was the best period for music carries a lot more weight than someone voting for the music released during their youth.

It’s the exact same recency and cultural bias, just shifted back a decade or two.

Her not having any idea what she was doing was the story. Also being a solo female who could get raped or killed at any point adds built-in drama. If it’s a dude there’s no story.

We all know the best period was from the start of psychedelic rock to the early/mid 70s.

That was the bad joke I was making by saying “it’s science.”

Everyone thinks the music of their teens and early 20s is the best.

For the origins of rock in western white people culture, yes, that was the best time period.

Better than what came later, objectively of course.

None of the bands influenced by eg Led Zep came anywhere near them - lol Foo Fighters, Black Crowes etc

That was also clearly the best period for soul, reggae and funk.

There are hundreds of woman who have hiked long distance trails like the AT/PCT/CDT solo. There is a pretty solid trail community so nobody on hikes like that is truly solo. She was completely irresponsible, and relied on other people to bail her out of difficult situations caused by her own inexperience and stupidity. And I don’t think she even came close to completing the entirety of the trail. Like she “kind of sort of” hiked about 25 percent of it, IIRC. And if her own words can be believed, she treated other people in her life off the trail horribly. And her excuse was basically that her mother had died. Like that never happened to any other people.

Not me. Hair bands, heavy metal, and grunge - a trifecta of terrible. And that’s not even getting into the pop scene.

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Grunge is terrible? Friends off!

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Does anyone actually listen to Nirvana these days?

It’s a bit like how it’s in to wear Ramones t-shirts but I bet they don’t listen to them much. Fuck knows, they were borderline tedious at the time when they were new, let alone now.

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Yes. Actually over in the Country music side some grat songs of the past few years have been Nirvana covers.

You’re still talking about variations of one narrow genre in a very short time period that ignores everything that preceded it and much of what followed. It is also not coincidentally the music of the times and cultures when recording and broadcast technology reached an important degree of maturity and availability, not to mention being the music of the most dominant and influential generation still living.

I’m talking about western popular music. I don’t think that’s really very narrow. It was also a fantastic period for jazz.

I’d argue that crediting advances in recording and broadcast technology is putting the cart before the horse. That period saw an enormous cultural shift when for the first time the counter-culture started to have a huge influence on the mainstream, which made necessary those advances to meet the demands of producers pushing back the boundaries and audiences who wanted to listen to and own copies of it.

Unfortunately, as we now know, it resulted in prog but that sense of endless possibilities probably ebbed away with Watergate and the end of the common cause of Vietnam. It was again time to put a suit on and get your head down.

Interesting I didn’t know this.