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Nah, we know how badly we screwed with Commander bone spurs.

Most of us dumb Mericans have only a hazy idea of how UK politics work, and for most of our lives have had the vague impression that things were better run over there than here. This stuff is like finding out your kindly old uncle bites the heads off live chickens - it’s disappointing.

MM MD

Seems bad.

If nothing else Trump once and for all invalidated the myth of “American exceptionalism”

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https://twitter.com/jessphillips/status/1166676921322745857

Maybe I should be happy to be leaving the UK in a few days for at least the next year.

The Brits kept assuring me the Queen is just a silly figurehead who can’t actually do anything. :(

If this shit fucks with The Ashes I will not be a happy bunny.

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Amazing isn’t it, how after 2 1/2 years of supporting our donkish American friends here over the subversion of their democracy, that as soon as things go pear-shaped in Britain they’re in here laughing.

Anyone might think they’ve never really thrown off their inferiority complex of being an ex-colony. :)

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We were laughing at you guys back when you elected a pig fucker, don’t know why you thought we wouldn’t laugh at this Royal pierogi business.

Well so were but to be fair the pig was decapitated at the time and after all who hasn’t fucked a dead animal after a few glasses of port?

I must offer my excuses at this point to head to one or all of the numerous Trump threads to laugh at your desperate situation, cheer Trump on for victory 2020 just for the LOLZ and suggest you all go and jump in one of your numerous polluted rivers before you start invading some more countries you might fancy, killing hundreds of thousands of civilians in the process.

Go America Go!

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That’s correct, he did.and the poor old biddy had to go along with it because the royals have a policy of not interfering with politics. We’ll see how long they can keep that up. but ultimately their interest is in their survival which in normal times is aligned with the interests of the country, allegedly.

Ruth Davidson will step down as party leader without much further ado, reports ITV’s Scotland correspondent Peter A Smith:

Peter A Smith
(@PeterAdamSmith)
Ruth Davidson will be resigning as Scottish Conservative leader tomorrow morning - I’m told it’s with immediate effect. She will not be leaving politics, though, and intends to stay on as an MSP. @itvnews

August 28, 2019

#abolishthemonarchy is trending on twitter.

This from Apolitical’s Josh Lowe:

Josh Lowe
(@JeyyLowe)
Obviously it’s mad to blame the queen for prorogation but it does seem like the sort of spot in which a German/Italian style “guardian of the constitution” president would be helpful

August 28, 2019
And this from Sky’s Lewis Goodall:

Lewis Goodall
(@lewis_goodall)
Today the world watched as, in secret, with no warning, members of a secretive body travelled to see the Queen to suspend parliament at a time of deep political controversy, largely because it suits the government.

This was all within the rules. That’s probably worth pondering.

August 28, 2019

This is Ed Miliband’s verdict on today’s developments:

Ed Miliband
(@Ed_Miliband)
Suspending parliament to prevent the expression of the will of elected representatives is what autocrats and dictators do. This attempted coup against our democracy to impose a no deal Brexit cannot be allowed to stand.

August 28, 2019

Conservative MP Sam Gyimah also found strong words earlier today:

Sam Gyimah MP
(@SamGyimah)
Shocked by the reckless move to suspend parliament to deliver an extreme Brexit for which there is no mandate. Taking a wrecking ball to the constitution by suspending parliament to avoid scrutiny, is no way to uphold democracy. I will work on a cross party basis to stop no deal

August 28, 2019

This from Labour MP Richard Burgon:

Richard Burgon MP
(@RichardBurgon)
Shadow Chancellor @johnmcdonnellMP is right.

Boris Johnson is trying to make out the situation we are in is “Parliament vs the people”.

It’s not. It’s the entitled elites of Johnson & Trump (and their economic agenda) vs the people. pic.twitter.com/dOiCbnmJg8

August 28, 2019

But even if Johnson gets his “people vs parliament” general election, it’s likely to come with a number of caveats, as Sky’s Lewis Goodall points out:

Lewis Goodall
(@lewis_goodall)
Had I been Johnson I would have done almost anything not to lose Davidson- including softening my Brexit plans and rhetoric. I don’t think the Conservatives have begun to internalise they’re only in government because of the 12 extra Scottish seats they won in 2017.

August 28, 2019

This from the journalist Ian Fraser:

Ian Fraser
(@Ian_Fraser)
“You don’t deliver on democracy by trashing democracy . . . we are not selecting a dictator of our country”. Yes, these were the exact words of chancellor Sajid Javid just 3 months ago. via @Haggis_UK pic.twitter.com/IpqVXxJjxS

August 28, 2019
And this from Stefan Rousseau, chief political photographer at the Press Association - (the BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg retweeted):

Stefan Rousseau
(@StefanRousseau)
Photo du Jour: Chancellor of the Exchequer Sajid Javid is seen inside 11 Downing St today after Prime Minister @BorisJohnson announced he would suspend Parliament in September. By Stefan Rousseau/PA pic.twitter.com/pqrOyYZhFe

August 28, 2019

I’m with the Brits. I just can’t understand how they’ve managed to keep Corbyn around. A lot of this mess is simply a forefiture by labor. He comes off as mean Bernie without the charm.

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Serious question, how can I (freely) follow these events? Is there any cable news type thing I can throw on via stream? Tweets and refreshing guardian.co.uk isn’t nearly enough amygdala stimulation for a US resident.

Best summary about today’s events…
Lisa O’Carroll
Lawyers for campaigner Gina Miller have made an urgent application to the high court for a judicial review of Boris Johnson’ s plan to prorogue parliament. It is the first shot in what will be an intense battle in the coming days to torpedo his plan.

“This is a brazen attempt, of truly historical magnitude, to prevent the executive being held accountable for its conduct before Parliament,” said Miller.

She had received legal correspondence from the government legal officers in the last two weeks stating that the issue of prorogation is of no more than “academic” interest and she says this now proves that Johnson has misled the nation.

“It is, sadly, all too clear from today’s announcements, that prorogation is a desperate reality, not a mere theoretical nicety. In view of this, I urge our courts to urgently hear my application for Judicial Review before 9 September 2019 – the earliest date that Prorogation of Parliament could come into effect.

“We have all been comprehensively misled by the Prime Minister and his lawyers. A reply from the Government Legal Department received late on 27 August stated: ‘The proposed intention to bring legal proceedings in respect of events which have not occurred and may never do so is noted. For the avoidance of doubt, we do not accept that the approach taken in your letter is an appropriate one.’,” she said in a statement issued tonight.

“To put this in an official legal letter and send it out at the same time as you are drafting a press release confirming Parliament’s suspension the following morning illustrates just how manipulative and anti-democratic this Prime Minister and his Government really are.

“The basis of my approach to the courts is that it cannot be legitimate or a proper use of the prerogative power to prorogue Parliament when the intention and effect inherent in doing so is to frustrate Parliament and fetter it from exercising its sovereign right to fulfil its elective role and enact any law it sees fit.”

Best UK politics podcast I’ve seen is Talking Politics. Looking forward to their thoughts on this mess.

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Thanks Simp…