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PM would find it ‘almost impossible’ to get his plan through European parliament, says leading MEP
Guy Verhofstadt, the European parliament’s lead Brexit spokesman, has said that it would be “almost impossible” for MEPs to agree the Boris Johnson plan as it stands, Channel 4 News reports.

The EU will not be able to agree to a withdrawal agreement unless the European parliament votes in favour.

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“It’s mainly repackaging the bad ideas that have already been floated in the past.”

Guy Verhofstadt tells Channel 4 News that Boris Johnson’s new Brexit proposals will be “nearly impossible” for the EU to agree on. pic.twitter.com/z9pUrX8uNd

October 3, 2019

Boris Johnson suggests he is willing to accept further changes to his Brexit plan.
Here are more lines from the Commons exchanges.

The most significant were probably Boris Johnson’s responses to Philip Davies and Alistair Burt - implying that this is not the PM’s “final offer” and that further changes could be made.

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Anna Soubry pointing out that Theresa May “did things in the right order” - got agreement from Brussels first.

She congratulates Boris Johnson on getting “a deal with the ERG and the DUP.”

October 3, 2019
Kevin Schofield
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Mark Francois tells the PM his deal would pass the Commons. The Spartans are in full retreat. https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/conservative-party/news/106963/boost-boris-johnson-spartans-signal-they

October 3, 2019
Rob Powell
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Tory Brexiteer Philip Davies asks if this is the PM’s final offer. Boris Johnson swerves the question and just says we will leave on Oct 31 deal or no deal. That suggests to me this isn’t the final offer and he is willing to compromise further.

October 3, 2019
Jayne McCormack
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Lady Hermon, independent unionist MP, accuses Boris Johnson of “dancing to the tune” of the DUP and says his proposals prove he simply doesn’t understand Northern Ireland complexities

October 3, 2019
Tim Shipman
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Alistair Burt now praising Johnson’s tone. One of the 21 rebels sounding warm. Asks if he is still open to further movement. Boris says that’s right but says “we have already moved quite some way”

October 3, 2019
James Forsyth
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Boris Johnson’s new Commons tactic is to offer to meet any MP who expresses specific concerns. Has already done that with Lady Hermon and Yvette Cooper

October 3, 2019
steve hawkes
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Boris Johnson “to reflect” on Frank Field’s suggestion for a vote on the new deal BEFORE on the EU Council
Would be extremely powerful to turn up on October 17th with a majority

October 3, 2019
steve hawkes
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Arch Eurosceptic David Jones calls Boris Johnson’s Brexit offer “positive”
That’s another vote

October 3, 2019
Jim Pickard
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Former Northern Ireland minister George Howarth suggests a local referendum in NI on the proposals:

Boris Johnson replies: “I’m not sure that referendums have a great history in our country of bringing people together.”

October 3, 2019

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The implication being that the Tories are trying to persuade Hungary to veto an extension, thus forcing no deal?

Don’t think the meeting was secret, there’s articles about it in the Hungarian press and the foreign minister seems to have been on newsnight last night.

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They deny they were asked to veto, and at in that interview he stresses EU unity on the issue, the need for an agreement and the chances of any different agreement being minimal.

I don’t think there’s any doubt Hungary would like the EU to leave them alone more, but I’ve never really understood why breaking from the pack on Brexit would benefit them. Yes they’re often at odds with other members, but that doesn’t mean they’ll act like a sullen teenager and just do stuff to piss off their parents. What do I know, though.

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Won’t matter if Hungary or whoever plays the veto card because they’ve been bribed/blackmailed.

Can you elaborate?