Fake, apparently
From a work meeting (Chatham House rules apply), there is the belief that October’s outcome is likely to end up in the courts.
Read into that what you will, but that clearly doesn’t happen if Johnson obeys the Benn Act and gets an extension.
You know its a difficult subject for me because growing up where I did I knew these peeps from childhood when things were simple, went to school with them and seen the changes.
@fidgetUK is correct that bigots is the word to use, alough growing up here(In my City) calling yourself British has a taint to it.
Anyways My British friend while watching the celtic game attacked my bigoted friend for calling me a f… bastard and tried to put the bigot out the window until he appoligied. That was a fun day lol.
I’m happy to say I’m from the UK but British just has this taint that it’s hard for me to do so I use UK or Scottish both of which I am.
Nice
Yup that’s us… All mixed company, none call ourselves British and my family is all mixed too with no bigots thankfully, which being from here is highly unusual
My cousins played for each team lol… Both quite good alough Dam… Can’t even tell the story or I’ll dox myself hahaha.
I’ve always tried to stay out of the Irish troubles and the 1 time I did a deep dive it was @marty posts on the old site that I read, then done some of my own research, which marty directed me too.
I do hope 1 day Ireland is whole again as I believe Scotland should too, through peaceful means Ofcourse. If ever possible.
Corbyn as interim PM in a temporary govt by the end of October is looking more and more likely imo. The SNP are already on board, and as October progresses the Lib Dem’s may come to decide that it’s the only way to stop Johnson from crashing us out without a deal. I’ve backed Corbyn at 5/2 to be next PM, which seems a great bet since there’s still plenty of equity even if Johnson clings to power.
If Johnson is still PM in November it means he’s either backed down and requested an extension (which would cause the Tories to spew votes to Farage in key seats) or he’s somehow managed to drag the UK out of the EU without a deal (which would make his rich buddies very happy but would cause economic and social carnage for the country and legal peril for him personally). Either scenario gives Labour a (slight) chance of if not winning an election then at least being senior partner in a coalition government.
Buddy is offering me 3:1 on $500 that Britain leaves EU if I take the doesn’t leave in next 2 years side.
This seems like a good bet for me but I’m not following brexit super close. Has to be better than 3:1 they never leave at this point no?
No brexit before 2022 has generally been around a 5/1 shot since May’s deal got voted down the first time, but since Boris began setting fire to everything the market’s headed in the direction of “he’s full of shit and anything could happen.” You could have got 8/1 or better if you’d had a crystal ball 12 months ago, but right now the price on Betfair is 3.65.
3/1 is a fair price imo (suggests a 25% chance of Brexit not happening before the end of 2021) but I wouldn’t back it. Too many variables! If as seems likely we get an extension then go to a GE before christmas there’s a good chance of a hard brexit coalition taking power and then it’s gg. We’re relying on Boris continuing to shit the bed AND the opposition parties managing to efficiently take advantage of it, which is a tenuous hope.
The only thing that gives me pause is that Johnson hasn’t already agreed to ask for an extension in exchange for an election ASAP. I think that implies he fears losing it. I don’t think he should, but hopefully he knows better than me.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ImIncorrigible/status/1178616484882456576
https://mobile.twitter.com/ImIncorrigible/status/1178636638949380101
That is absolute genius.
https://twitter.com/anguswalkertalk/status/1178624413543088131?s=20
GET READY FOR BREXIT ON OCT 31 THO
I think all these nonsense proposals are part of preparing the ground to try and get May’s deal through with just language changes. Partly to make it look like there’s some genuine negotiation going on, partly to show the likes of the ERG and the DUP that they’ve tried everything. Everyone with even half a brain knows that a deal is better than no deal, and even the likes of Mark Francois have been talking up the possibility lately.
The open question, to which I honestly don’t know the answer, is whether they can sell the tarted up deal to the low info numbskulls who have swallowed that a backstop equals a betrayal of Brexit. If they don’t think they can pull that off then they’ll march the UK over the cliff, I think. Maybe they’ll need a forced extension and a General Election first, maybe not.
It did at first surprise me how completely the issues in Ireland don’t really interest Brexit happy conservatives. I don’t know if it’s ignorance, or a belief they can keep it isolated from where people who ‘matter’ live, or an idea that they’ll cut it all loose. Possibly all three. They know they want a deal and that’s the sticking point, but beyond that I do now think they genuinely don’t give a shit.
(I mean, I never thought they cared about the people, just I imagined they might remember what a problem for everyone it was)
A friend of mine runs a news website in Indonesia. They wanted someone to talk about Brexit for their news podcast.
I thought it went pretty well. Intro is in Indonesian. My section (In English) starts at 2 minutes 17.
I didn’t think it was quite that bad (no Brexit the only way to avoid some violence), but I had no experience to base that on.
I’m ignorant of how that dynamic plays out in Ireland, can organisations like the UVF still influence the policy of the likes of the DUP? I assume that’s what you mean by a few million - so the pay offs that the DUP might secure would also be the sort of thing that appeases the hardcore loyalist leadership on the streets?
https://mobile.twitter.com/ManAboutCouch/status/1178960654750949377
https://mobile.twitter.com/JSWeetabix/status/1178962011394363393
https://mobile.twitter.com/ManAboutCouch/status/1178978413509562368
https://mobile.twitter.com/Otto_English/status/1178930644824580096
https://mobile.twitter.com/Otto_English/status/1178934248813846528
https://mobile.twitter.com/Otto_English/status/1178934645481754626