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MPs pass third reading of Benn bill by majority of 28

MPs have given the Benn bill its third reading by 327 votes to 299 - a majority of 28.

At second reading the majority in favour was 29.

Ian Blackford has just called on the PM to sack Dominic Cummings and to bring Ken Clarke in instead.

Says the Benn bill is designed to remove the cliff edge.

“It is the SNP’s top priority to avoid no deal.],” he says.

Blackford says nobody voted for a no deal Brexit as it was not on the ballot paper, and challenges the Tories to “shout us down, as you tried last night”.

The PM should quit playing stunts, he says. Says SNP is “ready to bring down the Tory government” to give Scotland a chance, and ready to work across the house in order to determine their own future.

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LibDem leader Jo Swinson says MPs should put party interest aside and focus on national interest. Says the way Tory rebels have been treated is “shameful”.

Asked whether the LibDems would pledge to revoke Article 50 at a general election, she says her party has been “crystal clear” on wanting to stop Brexit.

Says the PM has wanted his job so long “it has been almost painful to watch”, and that he said Britain would get a great deal. “Now he has the job, […] go and get that deal!,” she says.

Adds she doesn’t believe there is a majority in Britain for a specific kind of deal, perhaps not even in the Conservative party. Says any election should happen in a “calm and orderly way”, not under the imminent threat of a no deal exit.

Anna Soubry is now speaking. She says the PM has chosen repeatedly to use the word “frit” and “frightened” to describe MPs, when really it took them a lot of courage to make their decisions, with some choosing to end their parliamentary career in order to protect their constituents.

She says the people in the UK are sick “to their back teeth” of Brexit, and that the mater must be brought to its conclusion.
Soubry says the Benn bill has been carefully drafted in the best interest of the country and is not about stopping Brexit, just about stopping no deal.

She calls for a people’s vote. “I think the British people have now changed their minds.”

Ian Duncan Smith is now speaking. He says Labour and the SNP called for an election just days earlier but now block it. Says the problem with a people’s vote is that the result would not be accepted if people voted to leave again, as the matter would go back to parliament and nothing would get decided again.

He calls for people to instead be asked in a general election.

Labour MP Jess Phillips is now speaking. “I have no faith in anything the PM says, in nothing,” she says.

“The PM is playing some bully boy game, that I’m probably not able to understand more than parliamentary procedures,” she says.

She says the PM could bring his plans to parliament, that some of her colleagues were “begging him” to reveal details of his negotiation progress. Says her constituents won’t be collateral in the games Boris Johnson is playing to realise his personal ambitions.

“There are thousands of EU migrants in my constituency and they have absolutely no idea what’s going to happen,” she adds.
Philips says she doesn’t believe we should have a general election, that parliament should not go on conference recess and that that it should not be prorogued.

She says she’ll vote against an election until the end of October.

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https://wapo.st/30UM4eT

Johnson’s frustration — or un­or­tho­dox style — was on display in the Commons Wednesday. He uttered “shit,” a word not usually heard in public from prime ministers. He also taunted Corbyn, calling him a “chlorinated chicken” and mouthing what appeared to be “a great big girl’s blouse.” That’s an insult he has used before, which was immediately blasted on Twitter and elsewhere as sexist — and maybe a little odd.

Caroline Lucas is speaking and is not holding back. She calls the dissolution of parliament “a desperate and utterly cynical move”. She is delighted that the PM needs to “try and own his own horrendous mess”.

Says it is vital that no election happens before there is an extension of Article 50.

She remarks on the fact that Boris Johnson has left the chambers, “he can’t even be bothered to listen to the debate on his own motion on something as important as a general election,” she says.

The Chinese state-run media routinely refer to Johnson as a “crazy man”.

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https://mobile.twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1169339433147162625

I’m one of the Americans watching this with no idea what is going on. Seriously what is going on exactly?

Sorry it’s all so fast paced lol. I’m used to our legislature where nothing ever gets done.

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Their Trump is somehow shittier at leading than ours, truly astonishing.

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there is an incredibly amount of brutal honesty that I am finding to be oddly refreshing. I have no clue what’s actually happening, but it’s kinda fun to watch

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Equally astonishing is that it doesn’t seem like he’s going to survive this politically. I wonder how long Trump would stay PM over there. I bet it’s <6 months.

Peers in the House of Lords meanwhile are still voting on amendments to the Labour business motion that is designed to ensure the no-deal Benn bill will get through the House by 5pm on Friday, just in time before parliament is to be suspended.

They have to vote on over 100 amendments. Earlier there were rumours that the peers were adjourning, but they’ve carried on. As my colleague Andrew Sparrow explained earlier today, Tory peers have the opportunity to filibuster the process, as this kind of debate can in theory go on for as long as it wants to.

This from Conservative peer Ralph Lucas earlier:

Ralph Lucas
(@LordLucasCD)
It appears to me that the effectiveness of the filibuster has been accepted, and the focus therefore moves to whether a deal can be done in the Commons to bring the filibuster to an end. Lord Forsyth says the price for that is Boris being allowed to call an election.

September 4, 2019

Hi Marty…

Yeah their trying to filibuster all through the night by talking about amendments that mean fuck all.

Could go on until Saturday, maybe Sunday… The Benn bill is expected to get Royal consent by Monday. :pray:

90 amendments and 2 votes to each I think is the standard and votes take 15 minutes each.

The House of Lords is still voting on amendments to a business motion tabled by Labour that aims to get the Benn bill through all stages before parliament is prorogued.

About 10 of the Tory MPs who had their whip withdrawn after they rebelled against the government last night have threatened legal action and announced they plan to stand again for the Conservatives.

Three Conservative MPs have announced they are standing down at the next general election: the pro-Remain former defence secretary Michael Fallon, Caroline Spelman, who rebelled against the Tory whip tonight, and Nicholas Soames, who is standing down as an MP after 37 years – after he was expelled from the Conservative party for voting against the government.

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Think of the poor journalists covering this shit… :smiling_face: Hey Atleast The Lords are earning their wages this week… :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

You only learn those words in Eton/Oxford and Cambridge :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

lol wow and i thought america was dumb

I have absolutely no fucking idea what’s going but this shizz is riveting as fuck. Like that one dude walked the other side of the room and everyone was like OH NO HE DIIN’T! and then people are like “SIT UP!” and then this Sikh guy is all “Right Honorable Bongo-Bongo Land!” And then there’s a Shadow Brexit Secretary --like that is some straight-up Harry Potter shit right there, is he like some kind of ninja?

Goddamn, British politics is amazing after a few beers.

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Filibuster canned. Bill will pass by 5pm Friday.

I wonder if they’ve done a deal on an election date in exchange for preventing no deal (which would only apply for 31st Oct deadline, not any future deadline).

https://twitter.com/Andrew_Adonis/status/1169406626366971904

It’s tempting to think that Labour are trying to lure the government into no deal so they can later claim the high ground and force yet another election (next year?).

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