Joe Rogan

Why fire change meat color?

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Itā€™s the standard tale of a middle-aged dude who gets into cooking only itā€™s wrapped up in dumb internet bro shit. Just watch the Food Network like the rest of us, dude.

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Lol I would consider Cutthroat Kitchen or whatever to be must-see viewing if they brought in Joe as a guest chef.

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This guy is a moron!

Heā€™s right that cooking meat with fire and smoke is different than cooking it with a modern stove or oven.

Do you always have to be a contrarian?

fuck off

Going on mute. You have ruined the Ukraine thread long enough!

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keep me posted guy

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Yeah, I donā€™t think the guy is sitting in the middle of the forest in a loincloth with a hunk of squirrel on a stick over a fire.

No probably not but for me there is a huge difference in the experience of even just cooking a steak on a charcoal grill versus a stovetop. Itā€™s exactly what Rogan is talking about: a more primal experience. Then if you add a little wood smoke to it and it takes the flavor to a whole different level. I started building a charcoal fire on half of my weber, adding some cherry chunks and smoking my ribeyes on indirect heat for like 30-40 minutes. Then let them rest for five minutes with the lid off so the fire gets nice and hot, then sear them real quick. It never looks as ā€œperfectā€ as a sous vide steak followed by resting and searing, but to me it tastes way better. And I think that part of that is the psychological aspects that Rogan is talking about here.

Yeah Iā€™m not disputing that meat on an open fire can taste better than something cooked in an oven or on a stove.

Itā€™s that heā€™s connecting it to ā€œPrimal Rootsā€ when itā€™s simple science that J. Kenji Lopez-Alt could have explained 10 years ago or Julia Child could have explained 40 years ago.

Doesnā€™t he live in Texas now? I hear they have a thing called BBQ there that will blow his mind.

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Well I think a lot of it is psychological. The guy who grows his own carrots is going to have a different psychological experience eating them than with the grocery store carrots even if he canā€™t actually tell them apart in a blind taste test. A guy like Rogan who hunts, butchers, and cooks with fire is going to have a different psychological experience with his meat than someone who sous vides a steak he got at the grocery store.

This is such a dumb conversation

You would think we could all just laugh at this schmuck without having to get it n to a big debate on the merits of cooking a steak on charcoal vs a stove.

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My psychological experience is that I hate inefficiency. I believe in the division of labor in society and see trying to be self-sufficient as a wasteful duplication of effort, so growing or hunting for my own food would make it taste like the bitterness of lost EV, unless doing so was actually efficient. I might do it a few times for the experience so I can learn things, but doing it on a regular basis when there are other options just feels sad.

Hunting and gardening are hobbies. People do them because they like it. It has nothing to do with efficiency.

that i grow the tastiest celery in the world in my backyard is a hill iā€™ll gladly die on, bc itā€™s true.

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true-confirm

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Can celery be tasty on its own?

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