Mississippi lawmakers pass resolution setting up removal of Confederate emblem from flag
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Seriously. Republicans have no problem when itâs Kap or some other Black or brown person being cancelled.
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Not only do they not have a problem with the double standard, they enthusiastically embrace it. Never forget that they think double standards are the hallmark of a properly run society.
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Dont forget the fucking Satanic Panic. That shit was cancel culture on steroids
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Red Scare was the original Cancel Culture.
Well maybe Salem Witch Trials.
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So apparently on the right the ENTIRE story of the Rogan/Gupta interview is that Rogan got Gupta to admit CNN lies because they said he took horse dewormer.
Sanjay Gupta: (00:02)
So for you, Joe Rogan, I would say youâve had it.Joe Rogan: (00:06)
Yes.Sanjay Gupta: (00:06)
So now get one shot of the vaccine.Joe Rogan: (00:08)
No.Sanjay Gupta: (00:08)
Why not?Joe Rogan: (00:09)
Because I have better immunity than I would if I was vaccinated, right?Sanjay Gupta: (00:13)
Yes, I think your immunity is really good.Joe Rogan: (00:16)
So why, if Iâve already gotten through COVID, and I was really only sick for a day and then five days later, I was negative. And I do have the natural antibodies now, why would I take a chance in getting vaccinated on top of that?Sanjay Gupta: (00:29)
By the way, Iâm glad youâre better.Joe Rogan: (00:30)
Thank you.Sanjay Gupta: (00:31)
Iâm glad it only lasted a day.Joe Rogan: (00:32)
Youâre probably the only one at CNN thatâs glad.Sanjay Gupta: (00:34)
No, no, no. Weâre not-Joe Rogan: (00:35)
The rest of them are all lying about me taking horse medication. We should talk about that.Sanjay Gupta: (00:39)
That bothered you.Joe Rogan: (00:40)
It should bother you, too. Theyâre lying at your network about people taking human drugs versus drugs for veterinary-Sanjay Gupta: (00:46)
Calling it a horse dewormer is not a flattering thing, I get that.Joe Rogan: (00:48)
Itâs a lie. Itâs a lie on a news network, and itâs a lie thatâs a willing⌠Thatâs a lie that theyâre conscious of. Itâs not a mistake. Theyâre unfavorably framing it as a veterinary medicine.Sanjay Gupta: (01:02)
Well, the FDA put this thing out, you saw that. Did you see that thing that the FDA put out?Joe Rogan: (01:07)
What did the FDA put out?Sanjay Gupta: (01:09)
It was a tweet and it was snarky, I admit it. They said, âYou are not a horse, you are not a cow, stop taking this stuff,â or something like that.Joe Rogan: (01:15)
Why would you say that when youâre talking about a drug thatâs been given out to billions and billions of people, a drug that was responsible for one of the inventors of it making the-Sanjay Gupta: (01:23)
Nobel Prize!Joe Rogan: (01:24)
⌠Nobel Prize in 2015.Sanjay Gupta: (01:26)
â15, yeah. No, well-Joe Rogan: (01:27)
A drug that has been shown to stop viral replication in vitro. You know that, right? Why would they lie and say thatâs horse dewormer? I can afford people medicine, motherfucker. This is ridiculous. Itâs just a lie.Sanjay Gupta: (01:40)
I donât think anyone is-Joe Rogan: (01:41)
But donât you think that a lie like that is dangerous on a news network, when you know that they know theyâre lying? You know that they know that I took medicine. Here it is, this is Ivermectin.Sanjay Gupta: (01:52)
Youâve got it with you.Joe Rogan: (01:53)
This is it right here. Somebody gave it to me.Sanjay Gupta: (01:55)
All right, hang on. The thing is weâre going so fast, I feel like Iâm missing-Joe Rogan: (02:00)
Do you think thatâs a problem, that your news network lies?Sanjay Gupta: (02:05)
Well, I donât think-Joe Rogan: (02:06)
Dude.Sanjay Gupta: (02:07)
What did they say?Joe Rogan: (02:08)
They lied and said I was taking horse dewormer. First of all, it was prescribed to me by a doctor, along with-Sanjay Gupta: (02:14)
They shouldnât have said it was-Joe Rogan: (02:15)
⌠a bunch of other medications.Sanjay Gupta: (02:17)
If you got a human pill, because there were people that were taking the veterinary medication and youâre not, obviously. You got it from a doctor, so it shouldnât be called that. Ivermectin can be a very effective medication for parasitic disease and as you say, itâs probably⌠I think, what? A quarter billion people have taken it around the world. I get that.Joe Rogan: (02:37)
More, way more. Way more. Billions of people have taken it.Sanjay Gupta: (02:40)
Can I just come back to the one⌠I want to talk about-Joe Rogan: (02:42)
No, no, no.Sanjay Gupta: (02:43)
⌠two things on the ledger-Joe Rogan: (02:44)
Before we get to that, does it bother you that the news network you work for out and out lied? Just outright lied about me taking horse dewormer.Sanjay Gupta: (02:55)
They shouldnât have said that.Joe Rogan: (02:56)
Why did they do that?Sanjay Gupta: (02:57)
I donât know.Joe Rogan: (02:58)
You didnât ask? Youâre the medical guy over there.Sanjay Gupta: (03:01)
I didnât ask. I should have asked before coming on your podcast.Joe Rogan: (03:02)
But they did it with such glee.Sanjay Gupta: (03:03)
No, Joe.Joe Rogan: (03:05)
Yes, they did. I watched. I watched.Sanjay Gupta: (03:07)
You watched?Joe Rogan: (03:08)
I watched.Sanjay Gupta: (03:08)
You watch. No, I donât think thereâs glee.Joe Rogan: (03:10)
Yes, they did.Sanjay Gupta: (03:11)
No one takes-Joe Rogan: (03:12)
âJoe Rogan says he has COVID, taking livestock drug despite warnings.âSanjay Gupta: (03:17)
Yeah. Jamie had to pull this up, huh?Joe Rogan: (03:19)
You want to play it?Sanjay Gupta: (03:20)
Does she have glee?Joe Rogan: (03:21)
This is your news network. Letâs see.Sanjay Gupta: (03:22)
Iâm going to watch. Iâm going to watch.Erin Burnett: (03:24)
Rogan telling his 13 million Instagram followers that he was treated with several drugs, and he included Ivermectin on the list, a drug used for livestock. The FDA and the CDC warn against using it to treat COVID.Joe Rogan: (03:39)
Turns out I got COVID.Joe Rogan: (03:41)
Look, they put a yellow filter on me, too. [crosstalk 00:03:42]Joe Rogan: (03:42)
So we immediately threw the kitchen at it. All kinds of meds.Joe Rogan: (03:43)
They did.Joe Rogan: (03:44)
Monoclonal antibodies, Ivermectin.Joe Rogan: (03:44)
Did you see the original video versus that? I look like shit there.Joe Rogan: (03:48)
Z Pack-Sanjay Gupta: (03:49)
I think you look good.Joe Rogan: (03:50)
Pause, pause. Thatâs enough.Joe Rogan: (03:51)
Prednisone.Sanjay Gupta: (03:52)
I donât think-Joe Rogan: (03:53)
Thatâs enough, Jamie.Sanjay Gupta: (03:54)
I donât think Erin had glee.Joe Rogan: (03:55)
Oh, it was more Brian Stelter was the gleeful one. But the point is, thatâs a lie.Sanjay Gupta: (04:01)
It can be used for humans. I get it. I totally-Joe Rogan: (04:04)
Not just could be used for humans, is often used for humans along with all the other drugs I took. All human drugs.Sanjay Gupta: (04:13)
Yes.Joe Rogan: (04:13)
They know itâs a human drugs.Sanjay Gupta: (04:16)
Right.Joe Rogan: (04:16)
And they lied.Sanjay Gupta: (04:17)
The thing-Joe Rogan: (04:18)
Itâs defamatory.Sanjay Gupta: (04:20)
Yeah. They shouldnât have done that.Joe Rogan: (04:21)
Itâs defamatory. Right?Sanjay Gupta: (04:22)
Well, I donât know if itâs defamatory.Joe Rogan: (04:24)
I bet it is.Sanjay Gupta: (04:25)
Well, Iâm not a lawyer. Iâm not a lawyer.Joe Rogan: (04:28)
Itâs a lie.Sanjay Gupta: (04:29)
Well, see, hereâs the thing. You can have nuanced discussions about this, right?Joe Rogan: (04:33)
No, we canât.Sanjay Gupta: (04:34)
Yeah, you can.Joe Rogan: (04:34)
We canât have nuanced discussions about lying about someone taking horse dewormer.Sanjay Gupta: (04:37)
There was no glee, by the way, from her. I donât think anyone-Joe Rogan: (04:40)
Well, I didnât watch her.Sanjay Gupta: (04:40)
⌠anyone takes peoplesâ illness-Joe Rogan: (04:44)
Oh yes, they do. Would you stop it?Sanjay Gupta: (04:45)
They donât want you to get sick, Joe.Joe Rogan: (04:47)
Yes, they do. They were upset that I got healthy.Sanjay Gupta: (04:50)
I-Joe Rogan: (04:51)
Thatâs one thing they didnât report on, the fact that I was negative five days later, and working out six days later. Six days after infection, I was back in the gym.Sanjay Gupta: (05:00)
Iâm glad.Joe Rogan: (05:00)
Felt great.Sanjay Gupta: (05:01)
Iâm glad you do. I really am.Joe Rogan: (05:02)
Me too. Thank you.Sanjay Gupta: (05:03)
Most of the people-Joe Rogan: (05:04)
Iâm glad youâre glad. Youâre a nice guy.Sanjay Gupta: (05:05)
Most of the people I know I think would be glad that you⌠I donât think that thereâs any-Joe Rogan: (05:09)
Eh, thereâs a lot of people out there that werenât glad, but my point is, youâre working for a news organization. If theyâre lying about a comedian taking horse medication, what are they telling us about Russia? What are they telling us about Syria? Do you understand that thatâs why people get concerned about the veracity of the news?Sanjay Gupta: (05:28)
The concern was⌠Look, just the nuanced part of this, and youâre not taking a horse dewormer. I get it. You got that as a legitimate medication from a pharmacy.Joe Rogan: (05:37)
Somebody gave me that.Sanjay Gupta: (05:37)
Whatever.Joe Rogan: (05:37)
Thatâs a joke. My friend Megan brought-
CNN lied! End of story. Nothing else matters.
Gupta got run over like a deer in headlights in the exchange you posted. Ridiculous that he let Rogan bully him in an exchange that involved both vaccination after getting Covid and Ivermectin.
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It sounds like he was trying to concede a point that is pretty irrelevant but obviously very important to Joe, âCNN said I was taking horse dewormer (which he was), so how can we trust them on Russia and Syria?â, possibly because Gupta wanted to get to the more important stuff. But of course CNN lied is the only takeaway on the right.
The annoying part is that the actual âlieâ is really more of a mischaracterization. But the derpyshphere now has their headline âGupta admits CNN lied!â and the actual content of âthe lieâ is irrelevant.
Also weird that he threw in Russia and Syria. Sounds like the troll farms who are always pushing Syria/Russia have filtered through to him.
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This is why you absolutely cannot engage with the Deplorable/Nazi/Republican team in good faith arguments assuming they will return the courtesy. No one should be platforming Rogan or anyone else on stuff like COVID and vaccines unless they are willing to tell them to shut the fuck up because they are wrong and stupid and unqualified to comment. Like Gupta absolutely doesnât have to engage Joe Fucking Rogan in a peer-to-peer discussion about COVID and vaccines. He should absolutely come out swinging with âyouâre an idiot on this topic and your idiocy is costing people livesâ.
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Yeah the Syria and Russia thing was an odd choice of âfake newsâ examples right now. Rogan sounds ripe for the taking by misinformation farms though.
Well said. Gupta should not be worrying about appearances, politeness etc. Yell the truth if you have to.
Holy fuck. Dude is worse than Facebook.
This is a fatal flaw of the liberal/centrist technocrat class. And the right is practiced at exploiting it.
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Yeah, how dors Gupta not reply with âIts great you got better so quickly. Some people will. A lot wont. Thats why we recommend the vaccine be taken by everyone. Your results arent exactly typical, and there is no evidence that Ivermectin helped produce those results.â
Jesus Christ what a snowflake.
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Gupta was using the approach that works when you have a genuinely hesitant person who has been made âanti vax curiousâ by social media but can be persuaded with a little TLC and a talk with their doctor. But itâs a giant failure to think that will work on someone so obviously down the rabbit hole as Rogan.
Based on the transcript he would have gotten out âIts great you got betterâ before Bro Rogan interrupted him.
He had on Dr Rhonda Patrick on and she explained all this vaccine nonsense to him. I will say she did about as good a job as you could. She explained why what he was saying was wrong.
He asked for studies and how many people and argued against her because he knew a couple people that had âreactionsâ to the vaccine. I never heard him ask for how many people were in the studies or who conducted when she said elk meat and grass fed butter was good for him.
Rogan is a moron. Iâll admit I listened to him and enjoyed a lot of his podcasts. The thing is it wasnât ever him I turned a podcast on for. If it was a solo show there is no way I would listen. I listened for all the other people he had on.
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Also the other hilarious thing about rogan is he has constantly talked about getting stem cell and trt, and whatever else he can get injected into him. He has talked about hair implants and who knows what else but this vaccine is bad!!
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Stupid conservatives have a blind spot for this. When someone tells them they have to do something, they are literally overwhelmed with an emotional response that insists NO NO NO YOU CANâT TELL ME WHAT TO DO MUH RIGHTS!!! Itâs self defeating to combat this primitive flight/fight response with reason. It simply wonât work. It needs to be combatted with other emotional triggers like social pressure. But the internet has allowed people to enclose themselves in safe spaces where they can find a social system that supports any view.
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