My Israeli jewish family members wouldn’t spout the stuff mets is. American zionists are something else.
Most Jews also know basic stats about our people, like how there were ~15 million jews pre ww2, not <12.
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I have the most outrage for the side inflicting by far the most civilian casualties, and the side with by far the most power in the situation. That side is Israel.
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Sorry, is the Egyptian military killing people in Gaza? I might have missed it, but if so, sure, I’ll be as mad at Egypt as I am with Israel.
It’s absurd to say that Israel doesn’t rule Gaza when Gazans are wholly dependent on Israel for water, electricity, and communications.
I took this to mean he might have an open mind, but if you have a history you know better. Yes. If something is fair to criticize then you should be willing to do so yourself imo
Well, it appears you’ve been having this discussion for a while and I’m not privy to all that’s been said. I just like to see a polite exchange of opinions and from what I’ve seen, you’ve been polite (doesn’t mean you’re not wrong).
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That is because Gaza is not firing rockets at Egypt. BUt Egypt still blockades them as much as Israel does, why do you think that is? because they are terrorists?
I do not like that civilians get murdered. you all hate that the US gives money to israel but if the US did not give money to israel for the iron dome, thousands and thousands fo civilians would have been murdered. but because they werent you have no outrage at the attempt?
of course i have an open mind. the ap posted an article with alleged intel that some civilan properties were targeted without warning. that is unacceptable
they have a history of not wanting to have a discussion, of calling me names and cursing at me. notice i have not done that back
im hoping ot have a grown up discussion. but if nobody here wants to condemn an organization that targeted millions of civilains last week what can i do
Trivially false. Egypt controls one land crossing. Israel blocks 6 and controls the sea and air.
You show more compassion to an imaginary Israeli getting murdered than an actual Gazan.
22 israelis including 2 children did get murdered but you seem to niot give a fuck about them at all
is is antisemitism or ignorance? or do you only care if its over 23 deaths?
and israeli was not murdering any palestenians until the rockets started murdering israelis. israel did not start firing nay missles until hamas did. so your point is hamas is righteous to antogonize and murder and israel is wrong to retaliate because they are powerful
I reiterate, what is the right and proper Palestinian response to the blockade and Israel expanding their settlements?
The discussion on who should condemn what and where is probably the worst of them all imo.
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also you lying about my compassion isnt helpful. i am in favor of humanitarian aid to gaza, and support the current aid just sent by the biden administration. i want to be sure the aid actually goes toward humanitarian purposes instead of building rockets to try and blow israel off the map
This thread is moving along quickly - we’re at the “you either don’t know what’s really happening or you must be a antisemite” stage already.
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Is this a good faith question or is the thread in a troll threat mode and I will just be lured into something bad here?
“I am so polite. Also, you’re an antisemite because you dont want a much more powerful country raining bombs down onto civilians with zero defense measures in a much less powerful country”
Story checks out
the expaniding settlements have nothing to do with Gaza, the Palestenian AUthority and Hamas are two separate governments
and i do not have a perfect answer on how to stop expanding settlements in the west bank. it is important that israel controls the roads leading to jerusalem, but expanding settlements in that area does seem counterproductive.
hamas uses the settlements as an excuse. but when article 7 of hamas xharter clearer says to blow israel off the map, andin 2018 the leaders say kill every jew in the world, and you support this organziation over israel, it says more about you than it does me
Hahahahhahaahaha. OK, sure bro.
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i didnt call anyone an antisemite i asked if that is why you would only condemn israel and not hamas. its a very fair question.
It is productive if your long term mission is the complete Judaisation of all occupied territories. Pardon the New Testament, but ye shall know them by their fruits.
So I guess this is troll mode. Why is the differences in military activity between Gaza (that has no settlements) and the West Bank isn’t worthy of discussion? Especially when you brought up the discussion on ‘proper response’.
Settlements in general is a subject that is treated weirdly imo (not just here), but I cannot find a good way to start a conversation about it.