Boy the Eleanor lady champ from Friday really gives off a Trumper vibe to me.
WTF at the second place wager today. 1st place has 20k, second place 10k. Third place is 3k or something.
Second place bets 3k (???) and gets FJ right. First place bets $1 and gets FJ wrong, but is still the champ. What in the world was 2nd place thinking with their final wager??
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It was a clinic in shitty betting today. Immediately before that lol FJ betting, on the final clue the champ had 15k, 2nd had 10k. Final clue is a DD for the champ and he bets 5k??? Either bet 5001 and try to win it then and there or bet nothing (or some smaller amount that maybe locks out 3rd if you get it, donât remember what they had). 5k is the nut worst bet there.
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Yeah I saw the episode and the ending was nuts. However Iâm not convinced the 5K bet at the end there is bad. Isnât he freerolling there if he gets it right? And if he gets it wrong heâs still tied. Betting $1 on FJ was the real headscratcher and then he got bailed out by a bad wager.
No.
Thereâs a tiebreaker question now if people are tied for the lead after FJ. (This also explains the $1 FJ wager)
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Oh ok, then yes it was weird. Havenât watched in a while and yesterday was one of those days where I was wondering if I couldâve won as none of the contestants put on great performances until the end, although I didnât know the FJ answer.
I can kinda get the rationale for the $5k DD at the end. Get it wrong, youâre still tied; get it right, then you can judge whether or not you want to bet on FJ or not.
I certainly donât think itâs the optimal bet, but in the pressure and flow of the game, I understand it.
The 3k FJ wager has to be one of the worst bets in Jeopardy history.
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Yeah Jeopardy wagering is pretty close to a solved game, and when you have exactly half of the leader going into FJ there is only one realistic wager to make. To the point that not making it makes me question whether someone else took the qualifier quiz for you because you cant possibly be smart enough to get on Jeopardy
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5K wager in that spot doesnât even crack the top 100 of dumb Jeopardy wagers. If we run a bunch of ev calcs, it is probably not a huge loss in ev.
You donât exactly need to be smart to be good at Jeopardy. You just need to have a good memory for trivia. The two skills are highly correlated in my experience, but they are different skills, imo. I think that is why we see players make such dumb wagers.
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Yeah I just watched yesterdayâa match, it is an extremely weird spot and I can see making that bet in the heat of the moment. IIRC, nobody had been crushing that category. In that situation it seems fine.
Astonishingly few players know anything about how to wager and donât care to find out. Those are the players you want desperately to be paired against, the ones who still think itâs just a trivia game instead of a wagering game with a trivia component.
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Just getting caught. FJ 3K is so stupid the only thing stupider is a Calvin bet.
Love the instant Karma.
I have no problem with the 5k. It might be +EV to just go for the lock game and then still have a back door win chance in FJ, but not going to crucifix someone for that bet.
In terms of win%, $1 and $5,000 or similar DD bets. 15,001 gets 2nd to <2/3 and forces second to get FJ correct to have a chance.
Been traveling, just saw Mondayâs match.
I saw some people on Twitter dragging Ken for accepting âRooseveltâ without a first name but in context it seemed fine (the question specified âon rushmoreâ and thereâs only one Roosevelt on there).
The FJ wager from 1st place was just brutally bad. There should be a trap door under the podiums that should be activated for bozos this terrible.
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I havenât seen it, but itâs not like he makes these decisions, so dragging him for it makes no sense.
I gather that there are mayim fans who are looking to pounce on any gaffe Ken makes because they feel she gets roasted for minor missteps.
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Emily Fiasco:7800+7800=15600
William Chou: 8800+6801=15601 (New Champ)
Erica Weiner-Amachi: 11600+4001=15601
Emily is probably best to wager small (0 from 3rd)
William is fine, though since he needs to get it right he might as well go all in.
Erica canât protect and stay above Emily so there is absolutely no reason to get cute here. She needs to cover William.
Another case of instant karma for a horrible wager. Me likey.
Iâm out of the country so Iâm way behind. So, did this one go to a tiebreaker question?
Her last name is actually âFiascoâ?
Has anyone properly solved FJ and written out the solution? Maybe Iâm not appreciating it properly, but seems like it would be fairly straightforward to identify the different scoring conditions and toss them into Gambit or whatever.
http://www.gambit-project.org/#
Of course, this depends on how much we want to parameterize the model. If we allow contestants to adjust their wagers significantly based on category then it gets kind of hairy.
On the other hand, DD wagering is quite a different problem and presumably more difficult to âsolve.â The easiest way for me to do it quickly would be simulation, but obv that isnât closed form or any kind of actual proof.
Yes
the only scenario where this wager is even remotely decent is if the 2nd place dude has a stroke and dies at the end of DJ
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Yes tie break.
Funny think about Fiasco. My old job had a co-worker whoâs name rhymes with Fiasco so that became her nickname. I took a picture of her J! Intro and said it was her sister.
The real funny think is that our Fiasco is a real Fiasco but of course has been promoted to a management position.