Jeffrey Epstein and Associates

Nice retort, Kanye.

lol so we are not even fundamentally in disagreement.

Come home to 89 new posts ITT, think “wow, must be some big news dropped today.”

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*sigh*

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This thread was way too long to read so naturally I grunched it. Can someone provide a couple of links to good articles regarding his death please?

And we haven’t been throughout the entire thread! Maybe more time reading other people’s posts and less time crafting epic ninja-related ZINGBOS might have made this plain to you before?

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I really, really don’t have the energy or time to go back and prove you wrong so I’m just gonna continue to sit back and laugh.

There does not seem to be any decent 1s around atm Rexx, we’re still waiting on Bill Barr releasing information about the failings of the system & the Medical report has not been made public or has any video of the jail/Cell been available yet.

I’m shocked.

ok guess I’ll grunch again in a month or so :relaxed:

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Yeah at this point it annoys me that this thread is on top every time I log in FUCK I just bumped it again

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People don’t seem to understand that the meta discussion here is far more important than the particulars of how he died.

There is a much larger impact on our society by people’s desire to distrust government in favour of grand conspiracy theories. This type of thinking is the very root of the nationalism and anti-science which is currently and actively threatening our very society.

If the past 5 years has taught us anything at all it should be that our epistemological mechanisms are under attack on multiple fronts and we should be highly skeptical of all claims which align with those attackers.

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Or, there is a natural inclination to believe in grand conspiracy theories and trying to eradicate that is fighting against basic human nature.

Yeah… I don’t think doubt is ever really the problem. The lack of doubt is the problem. I have a brother who is a full blown conspiritard and the thing that’s really interesting about him is that he’s CERTAIN he’s right. No doubt in his mind. Because the thing that conspiracy theory people love about conspiracy theories is that it lets them know stuff other people don’t know. It makes them feel special.

The conspiracy theories that stick with people who aren’t conspiracy theory people are the places where the official version is super weak. Shit I still don’t believe the official JFK story. I don’t know what the real story is, but I have very little confidence that they told the American people the truth about that. That doesn’t make me ‘part of the problem’.

There’s a group of people with a desire to be special and know things other people don’t know without actually having to do the work to know enough things to be special. These are your conspiracy nuts.

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It has to do with your ability to evaluate evidence, reach conclusions, and credibly rib the thread about lizard people when you bit hard on a conspiracy theory that honestly wasn’t that tough to figure out. Unless you’re saying you’ve corrected your thought process?

I have manipulation and incompetence pretty even, foul play longshot, zero on the others. Last check of 4chan had alive leading a Killary plot and all other bets off the board.

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I encourage the conspiracy theories directed at conservatives. Republicans have been throwing them at the wall to see what sticks with great political success. We can’t even get the plastic out of our water because of that tactic. Throw it back at them hard.

I mostly joke but not entirely.

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CONSEQUENCES

And I mean lol you’re this close to just saying conspiracy talk is dangerous and bad even if correct.

The funny thing is I don’t think there’s really a huge spread in what the various posters think happened.

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No. Life is mostly mundane repetition, sprinkled with the odd ritual. We read books, go to movies and sporting events to escape, and whatever residual astonishment we feel is anticipated. What shouldn’t become accepted, is for so much of the media that we consume to gaslight us into questioning
our very extensive personal databases on human behavior, courtesy of lifelong interpersonal relationships.

Fwiw imo lizard people and pretty much anything else still firmly in play here

You are still relying on results oriented thinking. Jesus. The point is not the result. It’s not better if it turns out true or false. Both are equally bad.

It’s that you are arguing it is ok to wildly speculate with zero evidence in the face of an official version from reputable government sources. That is the cancerous idea. Not whether the speculation turns out to be accidentally correct.