CONSEQUENCES
And I mean lol you’re this close to just saying conspiracy talk is dangerous and bad even if correct.
The funny thing is I don’t think there’s really a huge spread in what the various posters think happened.
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No. Life is mostly mundane repetition, sprinkled with the odd ritual. We read books, go to movies and sporting events to escape, and whatever residual astonishment we feel is anticipated. What shouldn’t become accepted, is for so much of the media that we consume to gaslight us into questioning
our very extensive personal databases on human behavior, courtesy of lifelong interpersonal relationships.
Fwiw imo lizard people and pretty much anything else still firmly in play here
You are still relying on results oriented thinking. Jesus. The point is not the result. It’s not better if it turns out true or false. Both are equally bad.
It’s that you are arguing it is ok to wildly speculate with zero evidence in the face of an official version from reputable government sources. That is the cancerous idea. Not whether the speculation turns out to be accidentally correct.
It’s not wild speculation when you have former and current presidents on your list as well as British royalty
Sure he probably killed himself but to hand wave any suspicious things isn’t great.
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Yes it absolutely positively is pure speculation. Not a shred of evidence is out for their involvement.
It is OK to wildly speculate! The problem with conspiracy theorists is that they refuse to accept that they are speculating - and that’s in cases where there isn’t a well-formed, unextraordinary official account. When there is one, they get into ignoring facts and all that imperviousness to reason and such, remember?
Who is doing that ITT? Name names. I feel like it’s been ten days of you smugposting at someone who isn’t there.
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1020 posts deep, and we still lack a single iota of what Jeff would’ve supposedly testified to that isn’t already known or capable of being sourced elsewhere.
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oh and the fact that his death has permitted into evidence stuff that otherwise wouldn’t have been allowed lol
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Great, great thinkers.
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Suppose such material existed. How could we possibly know what it consisted of?
just speculate
So in other words, LOL us for not engaging in baseless speculation and positing it as fact? Sick burn on us for not doing that, iyo?
Every single person itt who is arguing anything other than the official version. There I named names.
There is no difference between wild speculation with no evidence right now and doing so later. All the evidence currently available supports the government position that he killed himself without help.
Let’s say footage is released showing him hang himself alone. Why can’t I still speculate that some shadowy figure took him off suicide watch and gave him the rope?
Speculation is ok right.
Let’s say the same footage is released as is a report of all guards showing no financial oddities. Why can’t I still speculate that a shadowy figure gave him the rope?
Speculation is ok right.
Let’s say the same footage is released as is a report of all guards showing no financial oddities. Later footage is found showing him weave the rope from clothes he smuggled. Why can’t I still speculate that a shadowy figure gave him access to clothes he shouldn’t have had?
Speculation is ok right.
Later an official report is released after a one year independent investigation is released concluding he killed him self with no help at all. Why can’t I speculate that the investigation team was obviously paid off by Prince Andrew?
Speculation is ok right.
Correct. That is the motive for wanting him dead, one way or another.
I mean, even just from a conversation meta here,
i’d tend to favor the side of this debate that doesnt feel the need to bring up entirely different cases, or unrelated topics two entire forums over to defend whatever point they’re trying to make, which as far as i can tell, is “u dumb sheep”
Maybe you’re not ACTUALLY saying that, but your tone sure as fuck sounds like it, from the very beginning ott. Yea clovis can push reasonable points like a moron but sheeeeesh
Yeah… conspiretards aren’t engaged in speculation lol. Is Pretzel Logic your favorite album?
There is, for the reasons I made clear, which you ignored to bloviate this pre-empted garbage for the benefit of the befuddled simpleton you forever imagine yourself to be talking to. Just a complete waste of everyone’s time.
You didn’t make anything clear.