Jeffrey Epstein and Associates

[Chuckleslovakian]

My biggest issue with Clovis is I took a bet with him on Avatar v Hurt Locker on being named best picture. What the fuck was I doing being on Avatar?

[clovis8]

Lol I don’t remember this at all but wow you made a bad bet there.

It’s weird how popular Avatar was but how it’s left basically zero cultural footprint. It was the biggest grossing movie all time until last month but never gets referenced in anything.

[jmakin]

Because it sucked

[LFS]

@clovis8

There is a lot of evidence that the growing distrust Americans have with the very idea of government, experts and legal infrastructure is a huge vulnerability for your nations stability.

And the answer to this is that we should trust these very obviously untrustworthy institutions more?

[6ix]

@PabloHoney

You’re pretty fucking silly if you don’t get that pedos get the worst treatment in the pen.

He wasn’t in ‘the pen’ so, you know, there’s that.

@Trolly

@JohnnyTruant

Also, if the guards hate pedos, and I assume they do, why would they want to aid the people who are breathing a sigh of relief that he’s gone?

Prison guards, well known for their second-level thinking…

Well,

@Trolly

…He’s a pedo, pedophiles don’t do well in prison.

that’s amazing.

[Chuckleslovakian]

Yeah first time I watched Avatar without 3d I went wtf. I still think it deserved the special achievement Oscar (last since Toy Story) for how well it did 3d.

[clovis8]

They are not untrustworthy.

In general, US government institutions generate some of the best science, intelligence and social data on earth. Your government is a massive source of the best information we have. Don’t make the mistake of confusing the small number of corrupt elected and appointment people at the head of your agencies with the millions of hard working civil servants doing good work every day.

Always remember we are the side that believes government is good.

[6ix]

@clovis8

Nobody doubts conspiracies are sometimes real. However, that doesn’t lend credence to conspiracy theories which are, by definition, implausible explanations for things which have better simpler explanations. They resist falsification because they are not based on evidence but rather gut instinct and feeling.

Russia meddling in the last election was by definition a conspiracy but, also by definition, not a conspiracy theory.

That’s fair. Maybe a big part of it for me is I find the nomenclature atrocious, in that a ‘conspiracy theory’ isn’t a ‘theory’ about a potential ‘conspiracy’. It leads to ridiculous conversations.

[ripdog]

@clovis8

He doesn’t want to go from being a billionaire with a harem to working 9 hours a day in the laundry for the rest of life as a celibate.

I think that depends on your definition of celibate. He’d probably become someone’s bitch, right?

[kre8tive]

It would have depended on asset forfeiture, if they took all his money he would have been absolutely fucked, literally. However, if he still had access to his fortune he would have been able to buy protection by putting a few inmate goons on his payroll.

[clovis8]

This paints a picture of MCC that makes Epstein’s choice to commit suicide understandable.

Horrifying Death, Horrifying Jail: The Scandal of Jeffrey Epstein and MCC

[clovis8]

Lol gaslight much.

[Bigoldnit]

Maybe ponied, but just read the wiki on Dr Michael Baden, who was hired by Epstein’s lawyers to observe the autopsy. Michael Baden - Wikipedia

Cliffs:

• former NYC Medical Examiner
• served on a panel of MEs who assisted in a House investigation of the Kennedy Assassination
• testified, interalia, in the OJ Simpson and Phil Spector trials
• “Forensic Science Contributor for Fox News”

My Spidey sense says that the writers may have big things planned for this character.

[smrk4]

@Bigoldnit

Maybe ponied, but just read the wiki on Dr Michael Baden, who was hired by Epstein’s lawyers to observe the autopsy. Michael Baden - Wikipedia

Cliffs:

• former NYC Medical Examiner
• served on a panel of MEs who assisted in a House investigation of the Kennedy Assassination
• testified, interalia, in the OJ Simpson and Phil Spector trials
• “Forensic Science Contributor for Fox News”

My Spidey sense says that the writers may have big things planned for this character.

Jesus Hermione Christ. First, I thought this guy was dead. Second, this guy was like the Carson Daly of autopsy commentary on TV in the 90s and early 00s. If I had one onion-esque guess as to who was observing the autopsy today I would have said, “that guy who was on TV 15 years ago always talking about autopsies, can’t remember his name but I think he’s dead.”

[Trolly]

@clovis8

It’s weird how popular Avatar was but how it’s left basically zero cultural footprint. It was the biggest grossing movie all time until last month but never gets referenced in anything.

I feel like there’s a generational divide here, Gen-Xers will remember a time when we used to go see movies just for the special effects alone. Like, we grew up watching ILM work its magic. There were movies like Twister that were dumb as fuck but holy gee look at those visual effects. By happy coincidence, a lot of these effects-driven movies also happened to be spectacularly great movies, like Jurassic Park or Terminator 2. So when James Cameron produced Avatar with groundbreaking Real3D effects, there was a whole generation of moviegoers who were primed to go watch it just for the effects alone. It was the last great hurrah for that type of movie. Much like Twister, Avatar was a dumb fucking movie, but everyone turned out to watch it just for the 3D effects. Plus, we didn’t have streaming services like Netflix or Amazon Prime.

Millenials grew up in an era where CGI makes it pretty easy to do whatever visual effects you need in a movie. No one goes to see a movie just for the effects anymore. Even indie films produce shots that would have astonished me in the 90s. They look at Gen-Xers like we’re morons who were fascinated by a shiny toy. They’re not wrong.

[PabloHoney]

The Manhattan correctional center is ran by the federal prison bureau. So go nit elsewhere.

[smrk4]

@Trolly

There were movies like Twister that were dumb as fuck but holy gee look at those visual effects.

How fucking dare you. Helen Hunt was the Beatrice of my adolescence. That film had everything.

[ChrisV]

@clovis8

This paints a picture of MCC that makes Epstein’s choice to commit suicide understandable.

While it highlights an important issue in itself, this article is kind of orthogonal to the Epstein issue, this sentence in particular oversteps its bounds:

While it’s worth figuring out why and how that decision was made, the truth is we already have a very good idea why Jeffrey Epstein is dead.

No we don’t. We have a very good idea of why he’d want to kill himself (something for which the conditions at the MCC are superfluous anyway). The important question is how it was allowed to happen. Everything in the article applies equally to any of the tens of thousands of prisoners who have been through the MCC and yet there reportedly hadn’t been a successful suicide since 1998.

[Trolly]

I’ve had a mad crush on Helen Hunt for like decades.

[Trolly]