You’re pretty fucking silly if you don’t get that pedos get the worst treatment in the pen.
Lol ok you got me once.
I just want to say clovis is a decent poster that pushes reasonable points too far sometimes, and that a lot of you need to pump the breaks for a second.
I’ve literally been told I’m off the reservation for my takes on russian election interference and continued disruption, and you guys are peddling a lot weirder crap here. Just take a breath man. Facts will come out.
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I’m definitely guilty of having a hard time letting go of my argument.
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There’s some big rush to jump to conclusions. I’m not a murder detective, or an FBI agent, or an investigative journalist. Those are the people who have the resources and know-how to figure this thing out. I’ll let them do it and whatever they say I’ll just accept I mean c’mon who even cares
I’d guess we’ll be seeing the prelim results. Tox takes weeks, and in this case I’d guess they’ll be looking for some esoteric toxins. OTOH, if he has a fractured hyoid bone, facial petechia and subcon bleeding he likely hung himself (or if you’re in for the conspiracy) someone hung him.
MM MD
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I’m in team Rich dudes don’t do well when in a jail cell, and he hung himself. I’ve seen stronger people lose it when facing a lot less time in lockup.
The problem with saying “the facts will come out” is that we already lived through this ten years ago, and the facts certainly did not come out.
What are people peddling? What completely ridiculous assertion has been peddled here other than there might be some super rich and powerful people who want him dead and there hasn’t been a suicide there since the 90s?
I would have no clue how to hang myself and assume most rich dudes are equally clueless
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Now do top 3 GOAT, lol
Key is to soap up the floor ldo
I don’t doubt that… I may swing the other way soon to because as I seen it I need more facts or an investigation to be botched/held back… I’m all for moving my goalposts as more evidence comes in or if it doesn’t come in.
And I won’t criticise anyone for thinking that it’s murder, because it’s all possible at this time.
The only other plausible scenario is that Epstein really wanted to die and was in the conversation for GOAT grifter of the last 250 years. Those seem like the only two options to me at least.
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My thinking behind him doing it himself is that the folks who may have done it had plenty of time while he was out & about, therefore he had no Kompromat on anyone and new he had no friends left in power to help.
Which also puts the “he’s still alive to bed” too as they had time to dissappear him.
That take assumes that having 500M and a bunch of Kompromat on people isn’t enough to be secure. It’s important to remember that this guy was pretty clearly an international sex trafficker. Sure someone could have killed him, but that wouldn’t have been that easy.
I’m sorry but that take ignores the fact that he’d already been broken out of jail for the same crime by high level people.
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From what I understand, he was not a cooperative witness. He’s pretty much damned if you do and damned if you don’t when it comes to cooperating with the investigation. Rat out his buddies for a lighter sentence and maybe get killed for it. Don’t rat out your buddies and you’re going nowhere. He obviously didn’t want to be the fink and maybe he was finding that was a harder road than suicide.
All fair criticisms, imo.
On a certain level, I think it doesn’t matter whether or not there was a conspiracy to murder Epstein and the only thing that matters is if conspiracy talk can be used to harm Trump.