I’m usually anti conspiracy
But I am full conspiracy on this.
I mean I fully believe Epstein hung himself and wanted to hang himself. But there is 0 fucking excuse for allowing Jeffrey fucking Epstein to hang himself…
If I had to bet it isnt Trump or Clinton responsible for his death, but some other billionaire
Could be Prince Andrew - wanting to avoid an international incident.
Some people have had their world view so warped by the more recent ridiculous conspiracy theories that they’re unable to accept that conspiracies do happen sometimes, even if it’s to turn a blind eye to something.
Yeah I dunno, the sociopath dickhead with the eugenics ranch that needs to cum thrice daily and has a wall of prosthetic eyeballs seems more likely to just keep believing crazy shit, like that he can slip justice once again with his rapey invincibility cloak and perfecto history of avoiding the law, versus a sudden personality-changing epiphany. Why not at least freeroll a trial and then take to the sheets if that whole thing doesn’t work out?
Before all you social justice warriors start demanding background checks for 600-count Egyptian cotton, just know it’s never gonna happen because they are backed by a strong lobby in the NSA.
What’s the most logical explanation?
That he killed himself while on suicide watch? very difficult, nearly impossible.
A guard was bribed by some billionaire we don’t know? more likely, but still so damn rare and there’s a good chance some other guard would have been bribed first and blown the whistle against this. Very risky and thus super unlikely.
Something Clinton related? So ridiculous it’s actually impossible
AG Barr at the direction/ encouragement of other important Republicans(or trying to incur favour on their own) who’s in charge of those in charge of the guards directed those to hire people who are psychologists (in name only) to take him off suicide watch and something something tell guards he can have sheets in his cell and knowing he’s actually suicidal he will do it himself? Very unlikely, but probably the best single situation we have?
Nothing normal makes sense and a conspiracy theory might actually be the most plausible situation.
That he killed himself while on suicide watch? very difficult, nearly impossible
He wasn’t on suicide watch. A report I saw said he was taken off suicide watch at the end of July. The question is why the hell anyone would do that.
Well I feel comfortable with the prison’s explanation about the first injury: “We don’t discuss these things” - which apparently was never questioned by the media or anyone in power. Feels legit.
Sure, but he’d been up and about and in court since and presumably had access to his lawyer. Any sentiments along the lines of “Someone just tried to kill me, if I’m found dead it wasn’t suicide” wouldn’t be too difficult to convey, I don’t think.
That’s the name that stuck out to me. He’s royalty and had the most to lose.
“Hey it looks like Epstein wants to kill himself. Who wants to stop that from happening?”
“Sure he was on suicide watch, but nah, not really. We can’t keep an eye on him 24/7. Must have happened while I was in the bathroom. Oopsie Daisy.”
He was taken off of suicide watch what, like 2 weeks after attempting suicide? Before him, has anyone ever been taken off of SW so soon after an attempt?
I’m batting for Team Conspiracy until we get a damn good explanation. It wasn’t by coincidence that the warden waited until Epstein to make such a strange decision.
This is why conspiracy theories are so fucking stupid. They are completely impervious to facts.
Castro made a good point yesterday that this is exactly why Americans are so easily duped by Russian troll farms.
Hard to avoid adopting pvn’s take here, at least provisionally given the info we have. Assuming it was suicide, was it a suicide from shame? Why would Epstein go through with it? Presumably such a monster feels no shame.
Why does it require shame? It could easily be pure self interest. He doesn’t want to go from being a billionaire with a harem to working 9 hours a day in the laundry for the rest of life as a celibate.
I think it is futile to try to understand the rationale of a decision to commit suicide when most often it is not a rational decision.