IQ and voting

Posts like this are why you don’t get banned every time you try to get us all on a list lol.

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Adequately responding to all this would take pages, but the short answer is that IQ is great when it coincides with empathy and long-term perspectives, but it can really suck when it doesn’t. There are a ton of ~115 IQ Libertarians who are just smart enough to think they’re better than everyone - and therefore think they should be able to do whatever they want.

Most of the 140+IQ people I know are progressive, but I interact pretty heavily with other healthcare occupations so there’s a massive selection bias there.

We probably need to help everyone vote and focus on improving the quality of information that we expose people to, but this isn’t a topic I’ve thought about seriously enough to concisely articulate a stance I’m confident about.

I think you missed it bro.

Someone just said he knows a lot of 140+ people. I don’t know what my IQ is but there’s no way I’m even going to hazard a guess after that.

Also, I think Christopher Langan was mentioned earlier, but he has around a 200 iq or some shit. He also:

Is a Trumper
Is a White Supremacist
Is a 9/11 Truther

Sorry Sklansky, you’re not even close to winning a medal for stupidest high IQ person.

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that’s nearly three standard deviations above the mean. What, like 1/500 people have an IQ that high? Dude knows a lot of people.

Not if you work in a field that attracts high IQ people.

At my old job it was a bunch of computer science Phd’s, some of which were pretty well known in the field. Easily 140+ on most of them. If you’re in a field with a high concentration of people with superior intelligence it’s not too hard to know a bunch of them.

I had no idea who that was. Now I’ve discovered that the perfect encapsulation of everything I don’t like about Mensa and the people in it is a shitty white dude.

That guy is ‘intelligence tests can only measure knowledge really’ the demonstration.

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Marilyn vos Savant is a conservative.

/thread

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I think there is an abyss between being a conservative and being a Trumper. Any conservative who didn’t jump ship in the last 4 years is basically irredeemable, IMO. Is she still a conservative?

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This has been boggling my mind for a while now and sets me off on tangents when talking to friends. I’m fortunate that no one close to me is a Trump supporter, but I have several friends who have a close friend who’s a Trump supporter or related to one. In my mind, there can only be two reasons to still support him:

a). Being an asshole
b). Being a moron

The asshole category includes two groups. The super wealthy who only vote their own interests and don’t give a shit about anyone else. And the racist POS

The moron category are all others stupid enough to believe his torrent of obvious lies and too gullible to see through his schtick and can’t see that he’s not a successful businessman, but a mentally deranged failed con artist totally unfit for office

Am I missing a group?

Not in my opinion, and I agree with your post 100%. If you look upthread though, it would appear that there are classifications of “moron” that I don’t really care to make but others do.

I believe there is a correlation between IQ and racism - the higher the IQ the less likely you are to hold racist views. So I think there’s a fair amount of overlap between groups 1 and 2.

In a Malcolm Tucker voice: “you’re an idiot savant… without the fucking savant”. Couldn’t find the clip from a perfunctory youtube search, unfortunately.

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I disagree. I’ve interacted with a few very smart racists. I think it correlates much more with empathy or a sense of entitlement

I mean you can disagree but there are definitely studies indicating this much

Maybe there’s a correlation between empathy and intelligence?

Anti utilitarianism can only be taken so far before it becomes ridiculous. If someone is denied a driver’s license because he fails a written test that he would have passed, but for the fact that he refuses to read the driver’s manual, that’s on him. As I have mentioned before, it was only slightly dangerous, mathematically speaking, to allow uniformed votes when they figure to break 50-50 compared to how they would have voted if informed. But now that it is more like 60-40 in favor of the lessor candidate who is more likely to use persuasion tricks that work on those uniformed, high falootin philosophy should be discarded.