Iowa Caucus Predictions... SEASON Thread

It all makes sense. Jman posts on cruisecritic.

He wants that sweet union cruise tactical extraction team health insurance.

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Not a big deal so long as you accept that the correct play is to lie to people who think like jman and let them think they can keep their insurance until it’s too late.

As a Canadian, I don’t get the upside to having to spend hours or if I actually need it, days and weeks thinking about or haggling with insurance companies. What’s the upside?

Poors die

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I don’t care if rich people pay for health care as long as no one has to pay for decent care. Same as k-12 education. Public option? Fine if the care is good and price is zero.

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Jman…what the fuck.

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I’ve been pounding that drum with you.

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Your union could still negotiate to get you a supplemental plan to make your Medicare better than Medicare.

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… And replaced with a one party system run by Trump’s GOP. Great outcome!

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Not when it threatens to affect him apparently.

I mean… " I don’t want your shitty healthcare "

I respect him for being honest about it though. Maybe others feel the same way but don’t wanna deal with the backlash.

Like enough mincing words and getting buried in the weeds of personal bias.

We have a proposal for Program X. Program X already exists in basically every wealthy nation in the world and has been proven to work. Program X increases life expectancy and health outcomes of the nation’s population, increases economic freedom, and conservative estimates show that Program X will save an average of $3,000 per person per year. Program X has to be universally adopted to achieve these goals.

The people arguing against this program or crying about not having a choice due to Program X’s need for universal adoption are literally enemies of the people.

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Ol’ Musket Ball Joe just laid it right at their feet.

https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/1192617463852216320

Check out these effective marketing scams:

No sugar added ≠ sugar free
Hand-tufted ≠ hand-knotted
Swiss movement ≠ Swiss made
Engineered hardwood ≠ solid hardwood
Medicare For All Who Want It ≠ Medicare

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Diet Coke ≠ low calorie cocaine

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cocaine is already low calorie!

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You were fine until you got here - kind of.
There are several different strategies that (mostly) Euro countries have gotten to the spot they’re at. I’m sure there are nuances for each, and I might like one better than another, but overall, AFAIK, the end result is pretty much the same, as in the upper portion of your post.

But the people who are 100% that any particular one of those choices is the ONLY right one is engaging in opinion/feelings, not reality. There are a lot of ways to get to a better place than where we are.

MM MD

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Oh yeah - on the old site I had a running discussion with the usual group of idiots about health insurance was a waste because they were 25 and healthy. In my former line of work it was a nightly occurrence for me to spend 20K on some bullshit snowboarders ankle fracture, and a weekly one for a newly paraplegic skiier looking at mid 6 figures at a minimum. But the idea of insurance was just tooooooo complicated.

MM MD

I wish you guys could debate rationally without piling on, calling names, and making sweeping accusations. It’s really exhausting.

I don’t agree with jman (feel the need to throw this out there so I’m not accused of being a trumper) but jfc some of you could really work on constructive debate.

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I’ll try to be better. Except for the Bears. That’s a line I won’t cross.

MM MD