There’s a massive difference between saying he would succeed and saying he could succeed. He came pretty damn close. It was clearly doable.
I disagree. There’s no evidence at all, for example, that Republican officials in GA/AZ did anything but tell him to fuck off. Repeatedly.
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People showed up in Philly to try to destroy ballots and got caught. It was like four morons in a huge truck with Trump flags and Q stickers. If the people who went to DC on 1/6 went to Philly and Atlanta during election week to disrupt the counting and destroy ballots, Trump wins PA and GA and the election.
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I’m not nearly as confident that
(A) they wouldn’t be arrested by police
(B) even if they weren’t, they would be competent enough to do so
(C) even if they “succeeded” the election results would be eminently challengeable in court as voter interference would be clearly demonstrable
Your post underscores how incompetent capital police were, though.
There were very few cops where the votes were being counted in Philly. 15-20 people could have gotten it done.
They literally just had to storm the door of the convention center.
The votes were in the process of being counted, they hadn’t been counted yet. There’s no recourse for them being destroyed, you can’t prove who’s ballot was and wasn’t destroyed.
That’s a pretty dark assessment. Not saying it couldn’t happen. But would put the odds of success at “not worth worrying about”.
A cell phone video or two ends this.
Now all those people have been replaced with people who think Trump was right.
Who is in charge of elections in those states now?
https://twitter.com/drdenagrayson/status/1324575441831735296?s=21
They claimed it was heavily guarded, but there was a video going around of like two cops being the entire security. And a fence.
If anything, election officials’ guards will be up in 2024 as a result of 2020.
Dunno how you can read this and not think it was not close. Those 2 dudes literally ran into the oval office to convince him not appoint this idiot AG and tell red biden states to appoint alternate electors.
If this guy has succeeded in implementing his plan to make a request, it still requires the cooperation of the legislatures and Congress over the objections of the newly hollowed out DoJ in the space of 3 days. The crazies were already after the legislatures to do this and nothing happened. So no, it wasn’t close.
Apparently the reason Trump didn’t go for this is the lawbros in the room were telling him not to do it.
Well also they were pretty close to murdering sitting members of congress
Do you have any sources/things to read about that? I was under the impression it was just “send alt electors, Pence throws up his hands, chaos reigns”, which is a much smaller task than asking Pence to not certify at all. Could be wrong.
If they had succeed in murdering Representatives, all that happens is the vote upholding the election becomes more lopsided.
My source is the article. His plan was to ask legislatures to send alternate electors. That requires legislatures to act on the suggestion. Crazies did that independently and Congress loled at them.
Larger point is that Trump will likely win easily enough in 2024 (barring major economic improvement over next two years) that he won’t have to steal anything.
Uh, because this dude “sending a letter” to battleground states’ officials wouldn’t have changed a thing. Trump was personally calling Republican governors and they were ignoring his calls.
IDK what iron’s “legislatures to act” means exactly but there’s no way the district attorney of the USA telling red state’s governors and congresses to send alternate electors would result in nothing happening cmon. Trump didn’t even do that, his worst was vaguely telling GA to “find 18k” votes or whatever. There’s all kinds of ways the transfer of power could have gone totally off the rails and we’re lucky it didn’t.