Sure, but I think that would be literally be a handful of peeps. And, I think those handful of peeps basic premise is itself absurd. There is no reason for us, as a community, shouldn’t set higher standards than mere legality. Arguments about some naive concept of so-called “morality” are simply a non-starter here, as far as I’m concerned.
I’ll repeat, your ask is 100% reasonable. Your ask hurts nobody. I am 100% in favor of your ask. I feel our community surely does, and certainly overwhelmingly would, if described in a way that is a direct and transparent manner, support your ask.
To answer your question fairly, I’m pretty fucking far from ok wishing death on Mumia Abu-Jamal, but to the extent that you are asking is there a special or different consideration with not being ok with wishing for the death of your political enemies, then yeah, of course there is. This consideration is probably hard to justify morally, although one could try arguing that to the extent that we have to live together with our political enemies we may want to not fantasize about killing them.
Yeah, I suppose. Like I don’t want people getting fired because they are associating with radicals, but if their sensibilities are offended by wishing harm on Steven M-blank, but they are not upset about people advocating for some pretty common, but very harmful policies, I want to say ‘wtf?’ to them.
I’m fine posting along with some people who think all of these things, but I think it’s a little backwards to say “I refuse to post in the same forum as someone who jokes about killing a few public figures”, but “I will post alongside someone who very somberly and seriously advocates for policies that actually cause lots of deaths.” — but if it’s about getting fired or on a watch list, that’s another matter.
(and all that said, I don’t think joking about killing public figures is in good taste and I’m not prone to do it — I just am not going to be run off by one poster and one thread.)
None of this stuff should be about ‘sensibilities’, or being ‘offended’, or what might ‘upset’ you, or me, or anyone else, personally. The whole concept of coming up with some kinda naive “moral” equivalencies, is always going to be a fools errand.
Wishing personal misfortune on S.Miller, or anyone else, is simply gratuitous.
Some respected members of our community have deeply held convictions regarding such, so much so that they are willing to leave us.
We shouldn’t fracture our community for what are simply and obviously gratuitous reasons.
And speaking of those people, Jbro, I want to remind you that your diet, and thus your health, and thus your very life may depend on your continued presence here!
Since you brought me up, I don’t have a problem with a rule discouraging wishing bad things on people, as long as we make an exception for Rush Limbaugh. I sincerely hope he develops the worlds most heinous case of hemorrhoids.
Sorry to all of you who get fired from your jobs for this post.
Stop visiting this website and any other political site on your work computer, use your phone. This is basic shit, if you fail to do it then you have no one to blame but yourself for any repercussions you face
Just being a liberal was weaponized against you. Ok? Not sure what that has to do with this site. Or how it changes my own opinion that the content on this site is super tame in general.
I mean, try to do a better job keeping politics separated from work? (Not downplaying that it sucks to get betrayed by somebody that you trusted.)
The worst thing any of us are doing for the image this forum presents is keeping this stupid fucking thread at the top of the front page for over a week.
Would jbro or NotBruceZ’s posts really be powerful weapons against you? Maybe we should have some conservative posters join just so it’s not just a commie site. I could see how some of your posts would look to some uptight numbskull, but those are your posts.
Semantics maybe, but I don’t dislike cuse. I didn’t like what I perceived as his intentions to mod a situation as he pleased despite what I saw as the will of the community being different. And anyway I acted like a baby.
I still struggle to understand why anyone thinks this site is so extreme. IMO it’s tame and I spend zero time at all worrying about repercussions of participating here.
This is probably right. This thread in particular is not that bad, but any threads where people are yelling at each other forever and acting like kids reflect the worst on any of us. I’ve done some of this for sure, but an outsider looking at Cuse and nunnehi’s wars would question all of our judgement.
So it’s that you think some posts supporting illegal violence are likely to get a right wing troll army pointed at us, which will lead to doxxing, which will expose your posts? That’s not necessarily wrong, but a right wing troll army will find a lot to hate around here and our outreach efforts, like the Twitter account, are maybe a lot more likely to bring it? Or you’re thinking something like the guillotine thread is something that would really go viral?
As far as this goes, well, it’s a pretty big collection of people with lots of different ideas. The Unstuck Overton Window may be small, but we’re definitely not all exactly like-minded on everything. Expect some of what you want and some of the opposite here as far as anything outside of never Trumping goes.