Definitely keep the email of her stating she will just add a date to the paper.
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Itâs only a matter of time before he or Ms. Rugby observes Karen breaking the actual rules.
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One of these two.
People like her deserve to be mocked. Buy a lathe and start woodworking to really fuck with her.
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Pretty sure the
âHereâs a word doc I just make up. Just guidelines. I can add a dateâ email answers this question.
I have what look like official rules attached to my contract. Her rules def arenât in there.
This may of course prompt her to get her rules ratified, but a) thatâs gonna take time to do b) take 29 days before they come into effect and c) I can still invoke the âwhoâs gonna make meâ rule.
No risk of landlord not renewing. Iâm a good tenant and the rental market is way down because of Covid.
Carve a sweater into a pumpkin
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This is more or less exactly what I predicted.
I think youâre doing great so far. Much better than the ignore her completely line.
However, now youâve got many options. Including ignoring her at this point.
Couple of questions:
- After reading the real rules have you noticed her breaking any?
- How sure are you that she can get these rules ratified? I would think that being able to take your bike up to your apartment and allowing uber deliveries would be supported by most owners. Itâs likely sheâll try, but it only works if she has support to make it official.
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I hardly see her. I had interacted with her 2 or 3 times total in 2 years. I doubt she has broken anything significant.
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Hmm. That depends. She is probably in close with the owner occupiers, and the landlords wonât care one way or another.
I think if I dont poke the bear and Iâm reasonably polite she will let it drop.
Significant is not necessary. I was just talking letter of the law here. Might be something to weaponize later on depending on how this shakes out.
If youâre really confident in your assessment of the rental market, if push comes to shove, you may have to suggest to your landlord that these things would be deal breakers and cause you to not renew your lease. If itâs really hard for them to find replacements, theyâll take your side on these issues if Karen attempts to formalize them.
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We have an update!
Two copies of this have been posted to the front door. (One on each side of a pair of glass doors)
Mrs Rugby pretty fed up with Karen
âWhy should I have to feel dread every time I order a delivery in my own place?!â
So, as much fun as this is, I think I need to find a way to close this out.
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Cross out âdeliveriesâ and âfoodâ and write âKarensâ imo.
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You probably got given a copy of the strata by-laws with your rental contract, if not ask your REA and they will be able to send you one.
If thereâs nothing in there they canât stop you getting uber deliveries to your door or bringing your bike into your apartment,
To make a new by-law Karen needs to call an AGM and got 75% if the vote in support or 50% if they donât get enough objections within some number of days (Victorian law here is weird). Itâs not compulsory but By-laws are usually drafted by lawyers, so Karen would probably need to hire one. She would also have to find some way to word it that banned Uber Eats but not all deliveries so people could still get furniture and stuff delivered to their apartments.
Any building guidelines she sends you are unenforceable nonsense, if Karen thinks youâve broken a by-law, the committee can send you a breach notice listing the by-law they think youâve broken. They then have to send you a final breach notice giving you 28 days to rectify the issue before they can take you to VCAT( Government run state tribunal)
Australian HOAâs donât have anywhere near the power they do in the US, Karen can send you as many emails as she wants but she canât actually do anything to stop or punish you. Iâd be tempted you just take the signs down if theyâre bothering you.
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Killer first post, thanks for posting and enlightenin.
I would tend to agree, just take them down if they are bothersome.
Too much time and energy is spent worrying about food deliveriesâŚ
My condo board prohibits food deliveries past the building entrance since Covid because old people are all Karens. Its run by Karens for Karens.
You live in a building full of Karens doing Karen things.
This might be the best first post for an account on this forum.
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I was wondering the same thing. With the first account of signs in the elevator, Iâd be tempted to put a sign on top of them that said âno unauthorized signs in elevators.â
Unfortunately, I can see Karen winning this fight. She has far more time on her hands for this stuff, and it energizes her while draining you and your partner. The social discomfort of being in a passive-aggressive Battle of Wills with her neighbor is nothing to her. Sheâs furiously typing and printing out signs. Her husband is saying, âCome on dear, letâs just go to bed,â and sheâs responding, âNot now; Someone Is Wrong In The HOA!â
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Time to switch tactics and make Karenâs life miserable. If you know her last name and apt #, sign her up to 100 magazine subscriptions and ask to be billed later. It will take months for her to figure it out and will make her paranoid.
If you want to be really devious, use different variations of her name and sign her up to the same magazine every 2 weeks.
Karen Smith
Ms Karen Smith
Mrs Karen Smith
That would count as harassment in many countries.
She would never know. You fill out those magazine subscription post cards and mail it in.
Still harassment though. Just pulling the signs down is sensible, but the anxious girlfriend is an extra complication and it might be worth putting up with it for her sake.
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