Healthcare USA #1

Well it’s Jake Tapper’s daughter, so presumably the basic facts have been vetted. Sounds like a major fuckup by the hospital.

I don’t trust a reporter’s take on an actual health situation whatsoever.

It sure sounds like a fuckup, but there’s lots of things in that story that don’t make sense regardless.

Come on, Suzzer, you can’t possibly take that account at face value. This is my favorite part:

LOL, wat? We’re supposed to believe that whatever doctor(s) saw her didn’t consider it on their own. Obviously they considered it, and (wrongly) decided it was unlikely. Like CN said, fuck ups happen. But the fuck up was almost certainly not “They forgot to think about appendicitis”.

They did not need someone to tell them to consider that. jlawOK.jpg doesn’t even cover it.

Most privacy law in Canada is not specific to health care, and each individual province has some supplemental laws that apply to health care data. But there is nothing like HIPAA, the privacy laws for health care are substantially the same as those that apply to other forms of sensitive personal information.

So after thinking about it a bit more I’m guessing that the explanation that doesn’t involve gross negligence is that she had a standard appy before coming in but didn’t have a lot of symptoms, then it burst so she started having more vomiting (but the focal pain at this point gets to be a lot less… at first).

Still though, she described an exam that 100% requires a CT. I do that exact jump test as described all the time, and that was something that requires a CT.

MedMal is so bad:

Woman gets to ER at 4:54 PM with a likely epidural hematoma (think of it as a collection of blood around the spinal cord causing compression). They get the MRI started 1h37m after she gets there, surgery starts at 5h6m later. Sued for delay of care, won 10 million dollars.

That’s fucking absurd. I’ve worked in a lot of places where I don’t have a patient triaged in 1h37m and end up waiting a day for MRI. This woman received excellent care.

Even if they found the right level of negligence, ten million for a 73 year old having to now be in a wheelchair seems like a massive payout, beyond what would be expected.

Part of the problem with medmal in our system is that you’re liable for all future costs of medical care. How you calculate that is pretty hard. Sometimes it’s actually better, financially for the defendant, for the patient to die.

This could be fixed with either single payer or a system that actually took care of people who were hurt by med mal, but we don’t live in that kind of society.

A heartwarming story of a guy who donated $100 a month to a local pharmacy to help people cover prescriptions they otherwise wouldn’t be able to afford.

'Merica.

This asshole was trapping those poor people in a culture of dependency.

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Another “But people shouldn’t have to fucking do that!” story being twisted into a feel good story.

Gross.

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Someone needs to regretfully inform them that “THAT’S SOCIALISM!”

Its only socialism is rich people are forced to do things they don’t want to do.

:vince1:

The Fax of Life

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Rough that they don’t shout Fatima Cody Stanford. She’s the grand champion of this, and a very outspoken one.

Only skimmed this article, but it seems to have a common problem that such article all share. They keep equivocating between to very different things.

  1. Obese people are at risk for a variety of health problems (compared to an identical person who is not obese).
  2. Obese people are not deserving of good medical care.

Thinking #1 is not a problem. Thinking #2 is a big problem. Just because someone thinks or says #1 doesn’t mean that they think #2.

That’s not the point being made in the article.

Like I said, I only skimmed it. Maybe it gets better, but here’s one example of what I’m talking about:

Are they saying it’s A-OK to think of someone who is fat as unhealthy and deserving of support empathy. If so, I definitely didn’t see it going that way.