Having Fun Staying Poor

I thi K we need to step back a little.

The world is at unprecedented levels of inequality.

This means.

  1. Lots of pissed off people who want to change the system
  2. Rich assholes who have lots of power but are under threat

The only two options now are

  1. Dramatic change for the better, social democracy, etc.
  2. The rich assholes appeal to the lowest common denominator and violently consolidate power

We’ve seen this movie before. There is no return to the status quo

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I don’t think this is true at all. Feudal systems existed. World severe poverty is at an all time low. 80% of the world lived in absolute poverty in 1800. That number is now 10%

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No thank you.

To be clear. There’s absolutely several interesting discussions to be had. Such as

“How unequal is today’s society compared to historical periods and how is that measured”

Or

“What can we learn from history that will help us understand the current period of rising inequality”

… If anyone else… wants to have that discussion.

I’m saying no thank you to a pointless argument about definitions of inequality.

I was curious and looked stuff up. I’m not repeating the effort though. I don’t know that any was a survey on “sexual acceptance” by country. I think one was sexual satisfaction and one was promiscuity. Don’t remember the other. But in all three, Canada was within like 3 countries of the the USA.

Those stats are weird and shouldn’t just be quoted without a lot of analysis. A person living in a tent in skid row who gets a tiny bit of SSI is less poor in terms of money than a farmer in an ejido.

When you go back to 1800 you are predating most people having wage paying jobs and even dealing with money at all may have been a rare occurrence.

It’s not a definition thing. It’s just wrong. I find it interesting as it’s definitely what the vibe is, but the vibes are worse than they are through multiple major economic crises… and the why is interesting

Homeless people today have a better life today than the vast majority of people before 1800. That doesn’t mean it’s acceptable, just requires knowing the reality of what life was like back then

Lol no.

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OK, what is your take on the halcyon life of a peasant in the early 1700s, and how much better it is than a poor person today?

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Typical person in the 1700s was a farmer/farm worker and, “poor person” is a goal post shift.

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But, like old times, do what you gotta do.

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Still no thank you.

How many definitions of inequality are there?

OK, I think this is a pretty shit life. I’m not even sure how you think this is a rebuttal. Someone who’s poor and/or homeless today might also have a job. Does that mean I am not to think their life is shit?

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Lol.

You have a hard time staying on point. Maybe it’s just that you jumped into something because you thought Ikes was in danger, but I’m not going to answer what I think you are supposed to think is shit or not.

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I think we have to be real in our definitions. And I think definitionally, CN is correct that there is less inequality today than in the past. That doesn’t by any means suggest that we stop trying to improve on equality issues or that there isn’t still a ton of work to be done to improve equality

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Why is it funny?

You can gave social or economic inequality. Physical inequality. Or literal mathematical inequality. But there’s little ambiguity over the definition of the word

lol, I don’t think CN is in danger. I think you’re full of shit. I’m joining in a dunk contest, not backing him because he needs my help.

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The only danger for me here is getting caught up in your desire to be yelled at for saying something dumb. Honestly it’s just icky.