https://twitter.com/deonteleologist/status/1608207374824923136
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I mean, I guess he never specified whether they were in the camps and is therefore technically correct. Suck it libs (but for real this time because he won).
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https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1608462250058342402
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1608817599609176065
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1608831730852724738
I spoke too soon thinking Dilbertguy was off the deep end, it turns out he doesnât believe this.
Dilbert guy giving off serious Principal Skinner vibes
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What the Huffpost doesnât say is that itâs not just Fox News.
I love that folks here think this is just a hilarious right wing nut job thingâŚ
back to the GOP:
What is the argument for not having fewer people? Obviously itâs not something to try and force, or even directly encourage. But the pattern of more developed societies â lower birthrates seems like a pretty clear win to me. What exactly is the counter-claim to there currently being way too many people?
The counterclaim is some of the policy choices one might make to effect that.
Musk seems to go a lot further than that. I can appreciate the sentiment that intentional population control is dystopian, but he seems to be very pro population growth. I donât understand that at all.
Thank you for the links.
No thank you to your comment.
likeâŚmore and better education, womenâs lib, those kind of policies?
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Itâs eugenics.
Many pronatalists fear that falling birth rates in certain developed countries like the United States and most of Europe will lead to the extinction of cultures, the breakdown of economies, and, ultimately, the collapse of civilization. They also believe that it is their responsibility to counteract this trend by producing the kind of genetically superior offspring who will be equipped to tackle the existential threats of the future.
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Abortion, pro environment policies (which allegedly reduce economic growth), vaccines.
I get that some right wing idiots will make the claim that those are the policies that the liberal marxist commies will enact to reduce population growth. Looking at Western civilizations and their reduced birth rates, it would be very hard to argue that those policies are much to blame, if it all, from a scientific point of view.
One source who worked closely with Musk for several years told Insider that heâs âvery serious about the idea that your wealth is directly linked to your IQ.â
This fucking guy.
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I kinda knew about that part, but it still doesnât seem to explain it all. Like if youâre into longtermism youâre supposed to want whatâs best for countless future generations. Overpopulating the planet today does the exact opposite of that.
Iâm probably overthinking it and the real answer, as always, is that people like Musk are fucking morons.
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I think the main argument here is that more people means more people that are available to work on the worldâs biggest problems. Itâs kind of hard to say âwell we have 10% too many people, letâs get rid of the stupidest and laziest 10%â. Reductions in hypothetical future populations will get right of âundesirableâ mouths to feed, sure, but they will also get rid of future productive members of society.
Also, the claim that we have way too many people seems pretty dubious to me. Growing populations come with challenges (we need enough space, we need enough food, we need enough energy) but we actually seem to have enough of those things or the capacity to deliver enough of those things at todayâs population level and probably up to the highest expected future population. The fact that a small slice of people hordes resources and would prefer for the other people to simply not exist so they can keep all their fantastic stuff doesnât make me think that we obviously have too many people overall.
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I feel like the bolded is a big one too. Having the population continue to ramp up is easy mode, relatively speaking, for continued economic growth and funding of what little government programs we have, without having to rock the boat at all.
Shrinking the population while not having SS run dry or having a whole generation of old people eating cat food in squalor or something actually requires some tough choices and good planning, which nobody wants any part in.
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