Why does he think there are two months between Election Day and Inauguration? For fun lame duck sweats?
You should really consider not slobbering all over reporters who âdonât tend to get into detailsâ.
That seems like a huge leak for a reporter.
Glenn Greenwald is for a wall. Did he not go into details.
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lol âlamentsâ and âlaudsâ. They were discussing if the Republicans actually have a chance of appealing to working class voters. Taibbi was skeptical as to if any Republicans going forward are going to be able to, Greenwald points out that Trump did in the 2016 campaign, that Bannonâs infastructure/wall/trade platform does have broad appeal to working class voters. Itâs obviously true.
Glenn sees how profitable the deplorable grift is. Heâs just lying in wait for his own FOX News show. Heâd give FOX News the gay friend to show that theyâre not homophobic.
Guess Mattâs going with the self-hating liberal grift too
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Nice, canât wait to listen
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Interesting podcast, thanks for the heads up
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Iâm not going to listen to it, but cliffâs?
They talked about how journalism was changing, and how they both agreed it was for the worse. Reporters used to care if they got something wrong and had to issue a correction, now it seems like they donât give a shit anymore. Taibbi says thatâs because the NYT readership, for example, wonât hold the paper accountable financially if they fuck up. And they both think itâs a bad trend that papers donât do retractions as much as they used to, oftentimes if they screw up theyâll just stealth edit it rather than say what they got wrong. Taibbi attributes a lot of this shift to the fact that 40 years ago newsrooms were full of working class people, today theyâre full of Ivy League grads. He had the interesting example of Primary Colors, the ânovelâ based on the Clinton 1992 campaign. He said an actual reporter would have written a devastating feature on what he saw, instead you get a fawning, sympathetic novel that was transparently about the Clinton campaign. He says this represents a huge shift: the working class media would try to hold the politicians to account, whereas the Ivy League media sees its job as interlocutors, who need to explain and defend what the elites are doing to the ignorant unwashed masses.
Taibbi also says that heâs worried about social media censorship and cites a recent example where it changed his behavior. He wanted to title his pre-election piece âVote For Neitherâ but he was worried heâd get banned by Twitter for attempting to suppress the vote.
Iâm sure thereâs more but I didnât take notes or anything, just what I recall offhand.
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Cool, some interesting points, thanks for typing that up.
Although interesting he picked the NYT for his example of readers not holding their newspaper of choice responsible for mistakes, ha
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Whatâs most insidious about Glenn is that he clearly doesnât believe in most of these conspiracy theories out there but has no problem advocating for a media environment that allows damaging misinformation to flow unrestricted.
Itâs a libertarian mindset where ideas compete with each other and the ones that are the most believable become the most truthful. Itâs an incredibly destructive perspective to have since it creates an environment where people try to construe information based on how catchy it is rather than how truthful it is.
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And its another one of those dumb slippery slope arguments when we have ~15 years of evidence of it being wrong. The âright ideasâ donât win out on social media. We know this. Algorithms are constructed based on this.
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