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Is there kangaroo veal?

Fresh joey - ripped straight from the pouch and delivered to your butcher, never frozen. Mmmm!

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  1. Whatā€™s between the egg(?) and the patty in that burger in the photo?
  2. What the price of kangaroo meat compared to stuff like beef, chicken, and lamb?

There is not. Kangaroo hunters need a license. Theoretically all kangaroos killed for meat are killed with head shots and mothers with joeys are off limits. How strictly this is policed I donā€™t know, but thereā€™s not a lot of incentive to cheat the system given that there are a billion roos out there and the shooters can get their quota without needing to cap every roo they see.

Itā€™s more obvious to me from a physiological perspective how your body adapts to being really hot.

Whenever I got to a really hot tropical environment with no air conditioning (esp Haiti) the difference jars my body like crazy. I sweat embarrassing amounts at first; like Iā€™ll be talking to someone in a market and sweat is running down my face, and people will look at me like wtf is wrong with you. I have to drink outrageous amounts of water but still wind up with a headache from dehydration since my body is retaining barely any water.

48 hours later itā€™s completely different. Iā€™m not as sweat-less as the Haitians, but I can drink a normal-ish amount of water and be in the 90+ degree heat and stifling humidity all day without sweating very much.

Itā€™s to the point that I plan for it on certain types of trips.

Dude Iā€™m high right now and not feeling happy.

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(Pickled) beetroot. Both egg and beetroot are considered ā€œAustralianā€ additions to hamburgers, like when McDonalds periodically adds a ā€œMcAussieā€ or whatever bullshit to their lineup, egg and beetroot are the defining features. I assume theyā€™re in this pic to emphasise the Aussie-ness of the meat. I donā€™t like either addition personally.

More expensive than chicken breast, cheaper than good beef cuts like strip. About the same as meh beef cuts like sirloin. Lamb also depends on the cut, but typically cheaper.

If youā€™re number than you otherwise would be youā€™re happier than youā€™d be sober. This wasā€¦ a goddamn day.

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They kept saying that when I lived in the USVI - that my blood would thin out. In 6 months I never stopped sweating.

Pickled beets sounds good to me on a burger. Thatā€™s acid + sweet, same idea as sweet relish in the US. Or pickled cucumber and high fructose corn syrup which I assume is part of fast food burgers.

Roo meat being commonplace in australia is just fascinating to me. I am very surprised at how sustainable it is. Something I really have wanted to try for a while. What does it taste like?

Bland beef. Like a rump steak. Okay in pies. My Australian friends tell me basically nobody middle class eats it. Iā€™ve also had charcuterie from it and it was fine but pig wins there.

My partner had one puff of a legal vape and one ml of oil recently (never smoked in their life) felt great and happy and sexy for an hourā€¦ then panicky and puked for an hour, napped and woke up sober.

The rumor in the 80s/90s was McDonaldā€™s contained roo meat.

Lol this is my dog after eating some random non-food item on the trail near my house.

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Catching up on this thread late.

For those trying to lose weight. Or in fact change any behaviour. I would heavily recommend getting across the latest research on habits.

ā€œThe power of habitā€ is a classic of course. Gives a good overview of the science. More recently ā€œTiny Habitsā€ gives a more up to date overview. With focus on how to actually use the latest behavioural research to modify you own habits.

The key insight for me was that any behaviour is made up of three parts. The prompt, the ability to do it, and the motivation to do it.

While everyone always focuses on motivation, itā€™s actually the hardest to change, and instead we are better served working on influincing the other two.

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Nah, but itā€™s bland in the sense that itā€™s extremely lean so you donā€™t get the flavour from the fat the way you do in something like a ribeye. You could compare it to a filet but what itā€™s most like is venison, if youā€™ve had that, and itā€™s often served similarly (eg with fruit sauces). It has a stronger flavour though, gamy. Hard to describe.

Itā€™s unforgiving in cooking, itā€™s not very nice undercooked and overcooking it totally ruins it. Itā€™s true that most people donā€™t eat it at home. I think itā€™s a combination of factors. Beef is nicer, I donā€™t think many people would say they prefer roo, but roo is nice as well. I think the difficulty of cooking is a factor, as well as people not being sure what to do with it, plus some people just donā€™t want to eat kangaroo.

Iā€™d generally prefer beef all else being equal, but kangaroo is enormously better environmentally and better ethically, so I often go for that.

Have you noticed racism playing any part in how (white) Australians view the eating of kangaroo meat?

No, definitely not. That bit about ā€œnobody middle class eats itā€ is not really accurate, itā€™s more just that most people in general donā€™t eat it much. There are no class or race issues as far as Iā€™m aware. Itā€™s not any cheaper than similar quality cuts of beef and harder to cook so you need a reason to pick it up over beef. That reason is either just enjoying cooking a wide range of things, or some environmental or ethical reason.

Edit: I donā€™t really know but I suspect some people feel awkward about eating it. Everyone sees kangaroos hopping around out in the wild all the time. Itā€™s just sold as ā€œkangaroo meatā€ so thereā€™s no euphemism the way there is with beef/pork/venison, and while the way we get that meat is a vague kind of ā€œfarming, some stuff happens, we get meatā€ the answer to how your roo meat gets here is that someone drives out into the bush and puts a bullet through the brain of one of those roos you see hopping around. Thereā€™s less distance, I think.

I once took a cruise between Australia and New Zealand. One night they offered kangaroo as one of the dinner options. All of the non-Aussies had the 'roo for the novelty value, the Aussies went for fish or veg. Agree with the venison comp. I thought it was pretty good, but I donā€™t think it would be my go to choice in a world with lots of other options.

That would have been my guess. I just imagine tons of Aussie kids growing up with a stuffed kangaroo toy or seeing them in the wild or at a zoo and just not having the stomach to eat them.

btw while itā€™s definitely not on every restaurant menu or anything, itā€™s definitely not some rarity either and you see it in many different kinds of restaurants. Most commonly itā€™s in slightly upmarket pubs and contemporary restaurants, but Iā€™ve seen it on the menu at Chinese and Thai places, Iā€™ve seen kangaroo schnitzel etc. The fine dining restaurant Georgeā€™s on Waymouth always has it on the menu, currently they have ā€œKangaroo fillet, sweet potato skordalia, crispy leeks, puy lentils, finger limeā€.