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Can I get these benefits w/o getting stoned?

Maybe.

This is a disgusting question and you should be ashamed of yourself. Do you hate being happy?

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The researchers think not:

Evidence available at this time suggests that it is ingestion of THC that is responsible for downregulation of CB1R, and therefore, for reduced obesity rates of Cannabis users. Our theory suggests that the psychoactive effects of CB1R stimulation with THC may be a necessary accompaniment to Cannabis -induced weight loss, because downregulation of CB1R is required for reduced BMI, and it is not yet clear whether microdosing will cause downregulation. However, weekly or biweekly Cannabis use may be sufficient as significant decreases in BMI are observed at weekly usage rates.

As far as I understand their theory of how this works, you need to downregulate CB1R in the brain, which involves overstimulating the receptors, i.e. being stoned.

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Ikr?

Iā€™ve learned to keep my brain in a cage. When I smoke weed it gets out and runs amok. I find it very stressful and the opposite of relaxing. Iā€™d much rather do shrooms and Iā€™m rarely in the mood for those. Weed is similar to an acid trip for me.

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Ugh. Canā€™t even imagine that.

The best way I can describe it is my normal life feels like climbing a mountain, one foot in front of the other, never look up at how far you have to go. When I smoke weed itā€™s like I sit down, look way up at the top of the mountain, and go fuuuuuuuuuuucccck.

Every facet of my life, every goal, everything Iā€™m trying to do - just seems completely ludicrous on weed.

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Have you tried an indica? It depends heavily on the strain for me. Strains which are too stimulating give me anxiety.

Iā€™m good with Mexican brown weed and a few beers. Anything more than that and I get stressed. Itā€™s hard to find Mexican weed in CA.

Itā€™s just not fun for me. It never was, even when I was still doing it with my friends in HS and college. Then one day I stopped.

Just like acid trips were fun for a few years then it was like - yeah thatā€™s enough. Iā€™ve probed the limits of my brain.

Cocaine OTOH is fun for me. But I know people who itā€™s not fun for at all. Vicodin and beers - extremely fun.

Is this the same for both smoking and consumables?

FUUUUUCK consumables. Worst weed experiences of my life. Takes forever to kick in and then just lays me on my ass. Ugh.

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Something I think about quite a bit is whether the way we try to mess around with the body is the right way to go. For example, as I mentioned earlier, pharma companies are currently trying to develop anti-obesity drugs which are cannabinoid antagonists. This makes some sense as we know that cannabinoid antagonists make people less hungry. However, the evidence above is that what you want for long term weight loss is to overstimulate the receptors instead, overload the bodyā€™s ā€œstore energyā€ signals so that itā€™s like whoa whoa, need much less of that.

Itā€™s winter in Australia and Iā€™m sitting here with a fan heater. Thatā€™s one way to make myself feel less cold. But the way to make myself feel less cold in the long run is to expose myself to cold, thus teaching my body to upregulate its heat production systems. It seems like virtually all of our drugs go the fan heater approach and virtually none of them take the approach of trying to teach the body to adjust for the long term. Partly itā€™s just a lot harder to get good evidence that this sort of approach is working.

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Lol, is that because you took more chasing the high? Itā€™s one of my favorite things to see with new consumable users. ā€œThis isnt doing anything, Iā€™m gonna take more.ā€

Me: ā€œyouā€™ll be sorrrrrrrryyyyyyyyā€

Hereā€™s basically what happens every time I smoke weed. The last time I got high was NYE. We were in S. Baja at this property of these off the grid people trying to create an eco-village. The dude is a super alpha surfer guy.

I got high and we kind of jostled over stupid shit all night long. No big deal, nothing openly hostile. But my brain went around and around and around over every little social gesture and perceived slight. I have no idea how much was me sensing him trying to push me around, and how much was him really pushing me around, and how much of the situation I was creating by pushing back against imaginary affronts.

Itā€™s like I turn into a giant satellite dish for all all those little social slights and things you do w/o really even consciously thinking about them. Every social interaction is fraught with HEAVY meaning. Maybe I slide down the spectrum or something.

Thatā€™s pretty much me and weed around dudes. I can get into similar dynamics with women where it feels like weā€™re capping on each other all night.

I do enjoy it for movies. I havenā€™t done it alone in so long I have no idea what it feels like.

Fuck no. Itā€™s - gimme the smallest dose you have. And then 1.5 hours later I go from not feeling it to on my face. And then I just want it to end.

I love shroom edibles. Faster, cleaner and more euphoric.

Iā€™m way way past that. Just trying to squeeze a few more good years out before it all falls apart anyway. Better living through chemistry.

Feeling cold is mostly in your mind anyway. Your body panics when it thinks itā€™s going to get colder. You can definitely train yourself to ignore that.

By the end of the winter in KC it would warm up to like 45 degrees and everyone is running around in t-shirts. First 45-degree day of Fall everyone is bundled up head to toe. I saw locals in Banff walking down the road at 0F in a light sweater like it was no big deal.

Thatā€™s not psychosomatic. The body upregulates heat production. Youā€™re actually less cold.

@Trolly since weā€™re discussing eats in here, just gearing up to make myself lunch:

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