Even if it is 10,000% guaranteed to be secure, it is still profoundly fucked up to put a camera in your children’s bedrooms.
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And this hardly the only red flag out there with Ring. The way in which they’re single-handedly contributing to the surveillance state by allowing law enforcement to access videos is appalling (and is a security risk for owners as well, according to a recent report). Yet every person that I know with a Ring system has been unwilling to rethink that after I’ve brought up the issues. Fear is strong, and fear of bad things happening to people you love is even stronger–paving the road to hell with all those good intentions.
Most Americans like Big Brother
Every time I look on nextdoor, people are recruiting other people to get ring doorbells and like join a program to share the feeds with a community watch or something. It’s fucking dystopian. Like when I take a walk down to the park or whatever with my wife, how many separate private video feeds am I showing up on, and what kind of people are watching/recording/whatever.
I feel like at some point 5-10 years ago a switch flipped for me that made me go from “people who are scared about private/government surveillance are insane” to “holy shit why do people not care about being constantly surveilled”. Not sure what happened, but I remember I used to feel the exact opposite way. Tbf I also thought being an Obama fanboy was the bleeding edge of the left.
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At this point Nextdoor is just an elaborate buzzmarketing scheme for Ring.
Is there anybody who likes the present era we’re living in? Those of you with kids old enough to have an opinion, what do they think?
Eventually when you’re the lone holdout, they’re going to assume you have something to hide. Maybe you’re dealing drugs out of the house… or worse.
That’s one fight they won’t win.
I’ve never heard my youngest talk about such things. My oldest desperately wants to be part of the Lost Generation in a cafe in Paris. Either that or the Beat Generation.
You should ask them. I’m genuinely curious if there is some sort of consensus from those under 25 about whether this is a good time to be alive and if they are optimistic for the future.
Lost much much better than Beat. Kerouac’s one of the few people I’ve successfully pre-judged as an asshole on the sole basis of trying to read his garbage.
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Catholics want to ban porn. A literal international sex crime organization. I don’t even.
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the other weird thing is that they record sound as well as video
The eldest is definitely not. She thinks the world is ending basically. But, she’s a bit like that by nature. She’s out of town, but I will ask the youngest when I see her later.
Probably right, but as far as I’ve seen Ginsberg was like a world class nice guy.
There’s some polling here and here, and some non-US polling here. Couldn’t see any breakdown by age. One snippet from the first poll:
70% of Republicans have optimistic view, up 29 points since 2016
… suggests what’s being measured is fairly volatile, which I remember there being a study about - people who were manipulated to find literally a penny a few minutes before being asked to evaluate their self-worth/sense of achievement in life/whatever, and the contrast with the control group was quite stark, IIRC.
There was the whole NAMBLA thing, though.
