I’m trying to find a cartoon…possibly from the New Yorker. The joke is that cable news feels the need to have on both sides of an issue to discuss a topic. And the punch line is something like, “And now to represent the other side of things… we’ll have on this complete idiot.”
Clovis didn’t actually say god. He was responding to a post that was talking about not having the definitive answer on God/atheism. So my characterization of Clovis’ post is that he claims to have the definitive answer and atheism is right and any other belief is wrong and foolish. If that’s not what Clovis thinks then he can correct me but I think what I wrote is fair.
No, religion without god is just philosophy. Keed is missing the point (probably intentionally) that science can investigate religion because religion is grounded in a claim about existence, God’s existence.
No, I’m saying that using science to investigate religion is missing the point. Religion isn’t about explaining the world in a rigorous and scientific way, it’s about finding meaning and community and self-help and direction. Is it a coincidence that basically every society has had religion and spirituality as an important part of its culture? The religious impulse seems to be an innate feature of humans. And science simply isn’t competition for religion – it doesn’t even attempt to fill the same things that religion fills in people’s lives. So using science to “debunk” religion makes zero sense at all.
I no more willing to debate the factual existence of god than I am fairies, dragons or leprechauns. Each hold the exact same weight in terms of evidence for existence.
It’s a complete waste of time and frankly even engaging in the discussion elevates the idea of god in ways it doesn’t warrant.
Uh, I definetly wasn’t saying that Clovis was saying religions don’t exist. I’m sure we can all agree that they exist.
Clovis is iirc a fervent follower of the obnoxious evangelical atheists like Sam Harris. So when Clovis 8 says that he can like scientifically prove that atheism is correct he’s trying to delegitimize religions. To me that misses the point of religion bigly. But again Clovis, if this isn’t what you’re saying then tell me what you actually think.
I was never asked to be an altar boy. It didn’t bother me at the time, but years later I did think back and wonder why not. There weren’t that many kids attending mass every week, guess I just didn’t catch the eye.
(Shouldn’t joke, obv, a priest from my school is currently at her majesty’s pleasure)
I hope this is true bc it would be amazing if Warren is banging 24-year-old dudes on the DL while Trump has to pay $5k to middle-aged porn stars for sex.