English Premier League & Other Club Football Thread

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I think Iā€™m just being careful, he seems totally cool tbh and thereā€™s no bullshit in chat, except the few Americans as usual.

https://mobile.twitter.com/CelticFC/status/1301067541746417666

@marty hope that calms your nerves bud. :facepunch:

https://mobile.twitter.com/shaneduffy/status/1301081968176762882

https://mobile.twitter.com/CelticFC/status/1301109761753198592

https://mobile.twitter.com/CelticFC/status/1301082405369978881
https://mobile.twitter.com/FAIreland/status/1301068594663559173

As a Newcastle supporting resident of Brighton, and a regular viewer of the Albion Iā€™m quite surprised by this move by Duffy. I think youā€™ve got yourselves a real quality centre half, andI I genuinely mean no disrespect but it does seem quite a downward move. I think he will kill it in the SPL

Itā€™s a bad day when Bolingoli was in Europe longer than celticā€¦ :grinning: :point_left: My dad sent to me todayā€¦ :grimacing:

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Iā€™m the same, alough I know little about the guy, from what Iā€™ve heard heā€™s a decent centre half and his stats are decent.

Money wise Iā€™m not so sure itā€™s a downward move because off the back of the 10 in a row a Irish player will have a flourishing licensed premises in a few cityā€™s full to the brim from now to the end of times + whatever else can be wrangled from the fans.

Sure he will face worse teams up here and not the stars of the premiership, so in a sence its a move down but for an Irish man like Duffy, all things considered he will love it here and have an absolute great time with the fans and club, bringing all in all a true lifetime experience at the top of the footballing ladder once we get into the CL which imo he could never experience with a move in England.

Giving up a handful of games against some of the best in Europe to play probably the same amount of games in the CL is a move Iā€™d make too if given the chance & unfortunately other donā€™t see it that way yet, but might do so if we progress in the CL and is why guys like @marty are livid, as they should be, unlike me who like to see positives in everything, my thinking is not for the top of football.

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One of my favorite things about Duffy is he was part of the legendary promotion team back 4 of Bruno, Duffy, Dunk and Bong which has got to be the best Banana Splits tribute of all time

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lolllllll yeah sure

Because the CL guarantees places in the relatively low quality Scottish PL to teams who frankly arenā€™t really good enough and rarely progress, but we all like diversity and itā€™s good to see teams from smaller nations in it. :+1:

The same happens with the World Cup when sometimes very decent European teams donā€™t qualify but youā€™ll see Jamaica or someone there.

Qualification via quota is a very poor way of comparing the quality of those teams.

Itā€™s tougher than ever to finish on the top 4, to be sure. Arsenal are in rebuild mode, which without a player to sell for Ā£150M will take a little time but continued involvement in the EL following the debacle that was Emery will help.

I would be if Iā€™d said that. Try reading properly. I donā€™t think anyone advocates a CL filled with only teams from the English/Spanish/Italian/German leagues.

I mean, no offence to my good friend @Smacc_25 but of course the Scottish PL is much lower quality than the major Euro leagues because of population sizes and fan bases. Celtic are the biggest fish in a small pond.

If you want to argue that theyā€™d finish 5th in the PL youā€™re welcome to. Iā€™d put them mid table at best, but all these claims are ultimately untestable. What is known is that defeat to a Romanian team meant failure to qualify, following the previous season when they were also knocked out in a qualification round, and it belies your claims.

Iā€™ll say thisā€¦ CelticFC is the biggest sleeping giant in world football, like say we went into the Premiership next year they would be the only club with the potential to grow into the greats of Real Madrid & Barcelona in terms of marketing and pulling power.

We have the biggest travelling support in Europe and coming here ainā€™t no fun, teams would balk at paradise with us shouting down their necks after that long bus ride, we as weā€™d have a plane to travel down south because weā€™ll itā€™s easier and we would be doing it like 20/25 times a year so would be cost effective were as English clubs would not for 2/4 games max a year.

6am startsā€¦ 3pm games ftw :v:ā€¦ Travel the night before, someoneā€™s not sleeping, just saying.

Giving CelticFC the platform of the PL would put us in the No1/2 spots in world football within a year or twoā€¦ 5 years at the most. Geez the 1st year we would be the 4th biggest club in the world outside Bayern, Madrid, Barcelona easily.

120,000 season tickets could be sold every year no doubt, weā€™d need to buy the Forge. :ok_hand:

Now whether that translates to being PL Championā€™s is anyone guess.

Well I mean English clubs in the South could just charter a flight as they do for continental away games anyway. Come on. Those games would be a cauldron that players would find intimidating, agreed.

The rest depends on what you mean by ā€œbigā€. If you mean support, well footballā€™s global and no one in Asia has heard of Celtic.

But anyway - big to me means success in trophies.

Yeah maybe, but Newcastle United say hello. We all think we are the sleeping giant.
I wasnā€™t thrilled by the idea of being owned by the Saudiā€™s but I was more pissed off by the closing of ranks by the ā€œbig 6ā€ to keep us excluded

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You could also argue for the Mackems (sorry) with their big stadium and base of travelling away fans.

I am obviously thoroughly enjoying their demise, and the Netflix documentary is an absolute joy, but itā€™s a disgrace how low they have fallen

I went to see Watford vs them in the PL near where I was working a few years. So many away fans.

Agreed.

I meant to put this in about Asia, if celtic went into the premiership I truly believe weā€™d become as popular as anyone else over there, its the pull of the irish/Scottish partnership that brings it, its electric. :sweat_smile:

But seriously it all depends on their success, Man Utd just happened to be the most successful when the PL started as that correlated into the Asian sports market, but honestly Iā€™ve never been to a country were someone hasnā€™t asked me about them or CelticFC.

Itā€™s practically impossible to argue who would be successful in the PL as seen in recent years where the Favourites have mostly failed.

Given a run at it, I think weā€™d be as successful as most teams in and around Arsenals levels.

We may never achieve a Liverpool or Manchester United but its not out of the question really.

That would mean we would be a champions league team imo, Top 4/6 possibly every year and given the fans dedication and drive we would want to win it.

It would be most interesting to say the least.

Given a run at it, maybe, if the PL money is invested well, which is hard to predict and depends on management structure as much as anything, as AFC know to their cost.

Itā€™s not obviously true that if Celtic were to join the PL theyā€™d be straight into the top 6 - these things take time and a better manager and club structure more suited to the new task, as well as tactical adaptations.

Weā€™re at half a decade of Celtic making half of what teams like Bournemouth do for revenue, and having half the wages in turn. Weā€™re at a full decade of them making ~Ā£350m less a year in revenue than Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea etc. This money has not just gone into players, but the stadiums, training grounds, scouting networks etc.
I understand the love for Celtic, but they are nowhere near any PL side competing in Europe.

When Manchester City got bought it took them almost five years to be a ā€œsuccess.ā€ Celtic are so, so far behind where they were and are never getting that financial boost.

Oh the task is enormousā€¦

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Well one thing most football fans have in common is being prone to looking at football through tinted glassesā€¦green in this case.

That sounds about rightā€¦ :+1:

From a business perspective, excluding the top 6 teams in the Premier league-in no particular order-ManUtd/City Liverpool, Spurs arsenal Chelseaā€¦ If given the choice of the rest would you invest into CelticFC if they were getting in the Premier league.

Honest answers only pleaseā€¦ :grinning: