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I didn’t realize how many internet MAGAs and lefties had full access to the USDOT email servers, phone records, and courier services, and hard drives to make the claim that Pete has done nothing since the crash.

Twitter has ruined us. Now we assume because there’s no tweet about it, nothing is being done. Completely ridiculous.

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Even before Twitter, we had entered an era of 24/7 campaigning. Twitter just made it harder for TV and print journalists to be gatekeepers.

Democrats don’t seem to get that they’re not really being elected to be good bureaucrats. Republicans get out there and preach to their supporters while people like ALEC do the work of writing the laws they want to pass. We need more left interest groups doing the bill writing and handing them off to Democrats in Congress to free them up to do more messaging.

In other words you want to embrace the dystopia. Good plan.

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what regulatory/safety improvements have they mandated since the disaster?

I’m not accusing Mayor Pete of not implementing any regulatory changes in response to the accident but I haven’t seen anything like that reported.

This wouldn’t have prevented the disaster, but Obama admin set rules to require the electronic braking system, Trump removed it, but here we are two years into the Biden admin and they are only talking about restoring it because of the disaster.

Crushing the rail worker strike might not have caused the disaster, but it’s the kind of governing involved in making the disaster happen.

It was an accident and accidents happen, but the Biden admin and its Secretary of Transportation have not done the kind of governing that makes accidents like this less likely. Will they respond to a terrible accident after the fact? Probably they are doing something, but that doesn’t mean they don’t suck.

This very easily could have contributed to the disaster, as fatigued, undertrained, and overworked crews figure prominently into many safety accident investigations.

For sure. I was just thinking that maybe it couldn’t have been resolved and resulted in changes at this point. But, whether or not that is true, that’s results oriented. Every day the rail workers are subject to the kind of virtually 24/7 on call system they have is filled with extra risk because the Biden administration and most of Congress decided to intervene on behalf of people like the CEO of Norfolk Southern Railway (pictured above).

It’s been two weeks. Regulations simply don’t work that way.

More needs to be done for sure but let’s use the real world as the measure.

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You mean the one where Pete is an anti-labor corporate ghoul

Goal post is moving.

The goalpost shift was “things could happen in the future”

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Chapo published an interview w David Sirota recently that was quite informative about the bureaucracy and corruption (“lobbying”) that created conditions allowing for this disaster to happen.

And probably more importantly, how we’re now at the part where our national leaders are Spidermen Pointing At Each Other In A Circle about who’s accountable for what.

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Every discussion doesn’t need to be a fight man. :grinning:

We were discussing if the Biden admin had done “literally anything”.

He can be both anti-union corporate shill and have done something in Ohio.

Right, and you shifted that to “they might do something in the future”

I’m not using a fighting tone but I guess that’s not easily conveyed through text

I want to embrace reality. Instead of the eDem-ish desire to go back to “normal”, I think we need to accept that there is a new normal.

Biden’s a bureaucrat at heart and isn’t inclined to circumvent administrative processes in place. There seems to be some appeal of the Trump rule changes that is still pending. For better or worse, Biden seems like the sort to let that play out unless Congress gets involved. Keep in mind that the Obama rule was put in place in 2015, so it’s possible that, absent a disaster, Biden may have gotten there in a way that takes 6-7 years.

If anyone was expecting him to just undo everything Trump did, keep waiting. He’s going to treat everything as legitimate and prioritize the stability of government and try to avoid setting the precedent of wild swings in policy based on who is in power.

It’s been over three weeks. Might only be two weeks since Mayor Pete heard about it though.

There’s lots that the executive branch and regulatory agencies can do by fiat or executive order without a final report from the NTSB. The entire 737 Max fleet was grounded worldwide days after the second runaway stabilizer accident, way before any investigation was concluded.

And less dramatically, the FAA can and does issue emergency airworthiness directives before the NTSB or similar foreign agency reports if they think it’s necessary. Which they did like a week after the first fatal 737 max crash. I know more about the aviation industry as learning about air accidents/incidents is a dumb hobby of mine. I don’t know anything about rail safety or associated agencies but I assume they have similar powers and mandates to the FAA.

And I wasn’t being snarky or executing a dumb gotcha when I asked this:

I legit didn’t know if they have issued any safety directives related to the accident yet. I still don’t.