What does praise from one institution have to do with the hiring practices of a completely different institution?
Not the biggest fan of lyin’ liz but I very much doubt it was malicious. Just a derpy older liberal who would love to have been NA. 1/64th native on my mother’s side is/was a running joke throughout the 90s because there were so many liberals who wanted to claim it.
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People don’t like to be judged and, even if you don’t say it outright, they often assume it. This is why some people love to rant about vegetarians or vegans and imagine they are always scolding people. They assume they are being judged. It’s also why rich Democrats sometimes lash out at Bernie supporters.
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well she was a Republican at the time, so…
I’m not saying there was any outright malice involved. But imo it is highly weird behavior if totally innocent.
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You’re not following. The racist trope is that claiming minority status places the candidate ahead of other more deserving candidates, which isn’t really true. But, regardless, if you’re going to attack people as racist who claim successful minorities like Obama only got there because the system benefits minorities, you can’t turn around and lay the exact claim to discredit Warren, even if she was lying, but, uh, as Keed admits, she has NA ancestry.
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Wat. People tend to support a candidate because their views align. Supporting an evil candidate likely means the supporter also has evil views. I think you’re talking about bias which is something completely different.
she would “love” to have been NA
but not because it was an advantage, it was just a cool story that would set her apart. but that’s still an advantage
almost every single person in the USA with 1/1024 NA has managed not to do what she did. i don’t really care what was in her heart of hearts. if “derpy” is the best way to describe it than i’ll go for “disqualifyingly derpy”
Viridian, when one elite institution chooses to highlight hiring a “POC” like this and another one confirms it, i’d say that is pretty strong evidence it helped. random people being happy there is a black president is hardly the same
You realize the poster you came in to defend was claiming it was malicious, right? This is a classic example of why you get mocked. You come in with some irrelevant hot take, then people spend the next 20 posts slowly getting you to admit, “we’ll actually, I completely agree with the poster I initially attacked.”
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Victor’s post about Warren is shitty posting, but this is revisionism. It’s a fact that she at least listed her race as “American Indian” on a bar registration and it was obvious bullshit even if she thought she was a tiny bit Native American and either she did it to get some advantage or she’s Marianne Williamson style loopy (not that MW did anything like that).
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Most people don’t form their views through years of rigorous study and empiricism. It’s the environment and circumstances they were born into, which they have no control over.
Hard disagree
got half trolled on this one, oops
See? This is exactly what I was talking about in the post before last.
But the people saying Bernie bros are like Trump supporters don’t think they are superior?
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So saying “Liz faked redface for unclear reasons” isn’t a conspiracy theory, while “Liz faked redface to get ahead” is a conspiracy theory? Disagree with you there. It’s just a perhaps excessively uncharitable interpretation of existing evidence.
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That’s fine. I am curious as to what evidence you find compelling that supports the idea that a majority of people’s political views are the result of some kind of rigorous, rational process rather than through their environment?
You’re throwing a bunch of random adjectives in there that make it impossible to make an argument. I think the majority of people choose a candidate based on their personal views and values. I can’t vouch for the rigor of the process.
“Excessively uncharitable interpretations of existing evidence” is exactly what a conspiracy theory is. Lol, wtf, man?
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can’t tell if you even think it’s ‘highly weird behavior’ that she claimed this identity
spoiler: it is highly weird behavior
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I will expandon why it’s bad posting though by Victor…
Warren is not nearly as obviously committed to a broad progressive policy as Bernie, but it’s also not just something she’s inventing right now. Her voting record is solidly progressive. Her agenda is beyond what would just be obvious HRC-style pandering. Not that pandering is ok, but If she is, it may well be to people like simplicitus.
You’re just generally not fair to her. She’s not that much different than Bernie (partly because Bernie isn’t quite the commie some people think he is).
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