Nothing I said in those two paragraphs is even remotely controversial among reasonable people. It is only controversial a small group of people on the internet pushing ideas that should have died with collapse of the Soviet Union. Not even controversial among sane left wing economists.
Read this and study. Will make you less dumb. https://www.amazon.com/Economic-Way-Thinking-12th/dp/0136039855/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=economic+way+of+thinking&qid=1573331667&sr=8-1
I mean, look at my last post. These measurements are vague as hell. He has a high aptitude sure. A fair number of kids at every single high school have a high aptitude. Some are in a position where they can develop it and get into a good or even great college and pass a really hard class.
It’s not a linux system, it’s just posix compliant. One of the biggest lies mac has perpetuated is that it’s built on the linux kernel. Lol no. They’re not even binary compatible.
It recently made common (i mean like REALLY common) directories like /usr/bin (where all your programs go) and /usr/include (where common library headers go) read only. Not even with sudo. And there’s absolutely no way around it in catalina without some extremely dirty and dangerous hacking. So there goes the open source world right there. Completely against everything nix systems stand for.
I could go on for 3000 words about this. But even common linux utilities on mac like “find” and “ls” work completely differently on mac. You dont have a true sudo anymore, even if youre on an admin account. Recently my mac forgot where all my common c library headers are, like stdio.h (like literally the most basic c include ever) even though it was in /usr/include. Apparently the linker looks somewhere in “cellar” For some god forsaken reason which is managed by brew. Even moving my headers into that path didnt work because brew freaks out that it didnt place it there itself. Changing the system include path doesnt even help, I need to do a clean install with the new OS most likely. And trust me I am NOT a novice user of these things at all. These things are all just ass backwards and make no sense whatsoever.
It’s just a mess. I could go on and on and on but I won’t. Comparing it to a nix distro is really insulting to them, honestly.
Lol
Wtf is this thread. Who cares if he’s smart? Take all his money he’s old and weak.
Nope.
This is a slight oversimplification, but “I’ll vote for trump” could be either.
Of course it can be both and often is, but either alone is enough. In Gates case, #2 alone is enough to explain it.
…in which case he qualifies for a billionaire money-grab on either grounds.
Ok, so even by your definition he’s extremely smart.
If so, then why bother questioning the claim that he is “extremely smart” (which is how this whole thing began):
So, I’m not a big fan of hero worship at all. I also think people generally grossly overestimate the difference in intelligence from person to person, mistaking ignorance and lack of curiosity for stupidity. I don’t think Bill Gates’ intelligence, though perhaps required for some of what he did, was anything like his most important characteristic as far as becoming so rich, and none of his characteristics were anywhere near as important as luck.
He’s not dumb like Trump.
But, he’s not so smart that it’s a huge shock that he’s willing to vote for Trump.
You are just so incredibly wrong about this. He dropped a 1590 SAT when the test ceiling was much higher. He apparently scored well in the Putnam Competition in high school. He passed the hardest undergraduate math course in existence. He published in a peer-reviewed math journal for a result he obtained in a homework problem that wasn’t bested for 30 years. His co-author (now a top computer science theorist at Columbia) said Gates was the smartest person he ever met. Jesus Christ.
He probably had someone take the tests for him and took all the credit for himself much like his businesses.
Holy shit this got dumb fast. Alright fine. Billionaire bad. Boo.
Of course it does. Gates is a narcissist obsessed with being on top. Whoever snuffed him out as a sociopath here basically nailed it. Check out this Vanity Fair article by Paul Allen:
When Bill got the news that he’d been accepted at Harvard University, he wasn’t surprised; he’d been riding high since scoring near the top in the Putnam Competition, where he’d tested his math skills against college undergraduates around the country. I offered a word to the wise: “You know, Bill, when you get to Harvard, there are going to be some people a lot better in math than you are.”
“No way,” he said. “There’s no way!”
And I said, “Wait and see.”
I was decent in math, and Bill was brilliant, but by then I spoke from my experience at Washington State. One day I watched a professor cover the blackboard with a maze of partial differential equations, and they might as well have been hieroglyphics from the Second Dynasty. It was one of those moments when you realize, I just can’t see it . I felt a little sad, but I accepted my limitations. I was O.K. with being a generalist.
For Bill it was different. When I saw him again over Christmas break, he seemed subdued. I asked him about his first semester, and he said glumly, “I have a math professor who got his Ph.D. at 16.” The course was purely theoretical, and the homework load ranged up to 30 hours a week. Bill put everything into it and got a B. When it came to higher mathematics, he might have been one in a hundred thousand students or better. But there were people who were one in a million or one in 10 million, and some of them wound up at Harvard. Bill would never be the smartest guy in that room, and I think that hurt his motivation. He eventually switched his major to applied math.
I have a degree in math from a department that is generally ranked about 2nd - tied with Harvard (Princeton is usually ranked first) and tons of people there would have passed the HARDEST MATH CLASS IN THE UNIVERSE and had other accomplishments. Most were pretty smart too. Some just at math, some worked crazy hard (Gates reportedly worked in 36 hour sessions), but it’s hardly like it’s swimming in geniuses and a guy who worked for me in solar who I’m not sure even got his GED is smarter than more than half the math people I knew.
I have a passion for and a little math background, and I will say that I think passing that harvard class is nothing super exceptional math wise- bragworthy sure. Acing that course would be seriously, seriously impressive. It’s more a testament to someones ability to retain and use large amounts of information in a short time than anything else. I looked at the problem sets and they’re challenging enough but any 2nd/3rd year math student at any major university should be able to handle them without too much effort. I’m pretty confident with a few weeks of serious study i could solve many of the abstract algebra problems, that is a favorite area of mine.
The chance of someone retaining any of that in a course of that intensity is basically zero. I think it’s more a testament to someones ability to pick things up quickly than raw genius or math ability.
That said bill gates is obviously very, very smart even when comparing him to other very smart people. Compared to the average population it’s not even a question that should be considered seriously.
Yeah, it’s a stupid stupid course. Just going for a brag or weeding people out or something. It’s very broad and the problems require tons of prerequisites that people won’t have and will just have to cram enough to get through the problem sets. There’s pretty much no way that course is good for students.
I’m just irritated when people think the average person is soooo stupid. Like when people say Trump is average in particular. He’s not. He’s way below average. He was constantly in an environment where he had massive opportunity combined with expectations and he came out an ignoramus. A lot of people, like the guy I mentioned who worked for me in solar, are plenty intelligent, but also incredibly ignorant. This guy is miles wrong about just about everything that he isn’t really familiar with or cares about, but if it’s something that he needs to know or cares about he’s extremely clever and insightful.
I mean i’ve done a lot of tutoring for what would traditionally be considered “smart” people and they all seemed pretty dumb to me. Maybe it’s just my perspective.
The thing is to be ignorant about some things requires demonstrating a profound lack of critical thinking and logical deduction, some of the hallmarks I consider of intelligence. At the same time there was one point in my life where I was so hopelessly ignorant that I was/should have been considered pretty stupid. So I don’t know. There’s many kinds of intelligences but if someone believes the moon landing is fake or in lizard people I have an extremely hard time describing them as anywhere close to average.
There’s a lot of research out there that suggests if people are smart in one area they’re likely to be smart in a ton of other areas. So the moon landing fake guy who also happens to be really good at navigating tax law or applying unique and clever solutions to handiwork or is a good programmer I would still have a really hard time describing as not dumb.
Just being uneducated makes some of that stuff hard. And I think some of the fake moon landing stuff is more like mental illness than being dumb. A math guy I knew who graduated in 3 years (math and philosophy), took mostly (maybe entirely) graduate level courses his 3rd year as an undergrad - and he was very smart, but not like I can’t believe how smart this guy is smart - well, he had a lot of weird beliefs when I was close friends with him and later really developed severe mental illness.