Often combined with some pretty substantial revisionist history about how much they suffered and managed to pull themselves up by their bootstraps with no handouts etc. I’ve definitely seen multiple versions of “the government never helped me none when I was on food stamps collecting unemployment!”.
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Does she think it’s perfectly fine to spend trillions bailing out corporations?
Not corporations, Job Creators.
My mom is a retired teacher who doesn’t support free college because she says some kids don’t want to learn and go to college and it would just be a waste of money. She told me this when my brother was living on her couch while getting his teaching credential that he took out student loans to get. He had so little money and time she would make his lunch for him every day otherwise he might skip eating. Shit is fucking baffling man.
Is this the heritage not hate brother?
of course
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Is he being sincere there?
100%
Man, that sucks. Do you guys get along otherwise?
An uptick in suicides wouldn’t be surprising. No doubt this is taking a toll on the mental health of a lot of Americans.
I’ve had to reduce contact with my mother because every time I speak to her it’s really more her ranting for 20 minutes while I focus as hard as I can on not commenting. She goes off on these news articles I’ve never heard and expects me to just go “Oh! That’s horrible!” like I actually know what she’s talking about.
I mean you barely see your son and when you do it’s taking that time to go off on politics. She clearly has nothing to do other than watch OAN and Fox News like the king deplorable she supports. You think that her boredom and loneliness would encourage me to call more but when they go like this, I’d rather not.
I know. There is a difference between disagreeing over politics and not getting along otherwise. Also, his brother was trolling pretty much throughout that whole thread, so there isn’t much to go on regarding what he actually believes.
as far as i can tell everything i have posted in this thread and that he has in the HnH thread is what he believes. If not he just trolls throughout his whole life in person and online.
We get along fine i guess other than politics but it created quite a rift between us to where I don’t really want to be around him. Maybe when Trump is gone, hopefully Nov, it’ll be better. He reached out to me a few weeks ago i think and was just like hey lets put this behind us and I said something like “I’ll think about it” and i was serious because the homophobic comments he makes and the racism etc are not just politics to me so it genuinely isn’t as easy for me to just be like yea ok lets go back to pretending like you aren’t that person. Well as soon as I said that he jumped right off into the deep end again with being a huge dick about it and a bunch of politics nonsense so I guess it’s going to be a bit.
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Ok guys time for another round of rate my trump fight! My trumper friend runs his parents restaurant business and apparently has found a cheat code when arguing about trump that every criticism you have is completely overblown and not a real issue or concern and you’re actually just confused and all you have to do is create an entirely fictionalized version of trump and we will all have no choice but to vote this great america first businessman.
Trumper: Trump hasn’t been a bad president. His social appearance is what needs work.
Friend1: My retirement account is all I care about
Trumper: Who would you want in office taking us out of this depression? Biden or Trump. I’ll take the businessman all day long.
Friend1: Biden is a vegetable at this point
Friend2: FYI he’s been terrible between the lines. He might not seem bad in the things that affect your daily life, but he’s been brutally terrible
Me: <Trumper’s> still voting for trump to save a few bucks on taxes, hope that’s been worth it.
Friend1: I ain’t going to lie, the tax savings have been dope
Me: Putting your faith in the dumbest most selfish idiot alive to turn the country around, when he is completely incapable of doing anything unless he sees it on television.
Friend1: He going to bring the my pillow guy onboard to turn this around
Friend2: At the end of the day the majority of people will vote for whoever they believe will provide them the most financial gain. Ain’t no changing that
Friend1: Yeah I think he’s a total dumbass but I want the economy to do well and everything else is secondary. He could very well fuck that up before November but Biden will be eaten alive in a head to head debate
Me: Ya I mean he’s bungled the coronavirus so fucking badly because he’s so stupid and mentally ill and it’s costing our country trillions but Biden would be somehow be worse for the economy.
Trumper: Whoa whoa whoa. Untrue about Corona. Corona is bad because our systems to prevent an outbreak like this were never in place. It’s a decades long problem that has always been present. Not having reserves of medical supplies is not trumps fault. And that’s the biggest issue that we have had to overcome.
Friend2: He’s president, it’s his fault
Trumper: Any president right now would be fumbling on how to balance death due to a foreign and unknown disease vs not enough medical supplies to support taking care of those people. Not many choices there. Not his fault.
Me: Delusional. He’s the dumbest mother fucker on earth and he spends his time watching television instead of being president. It’s embarrassing that anyone would vote for him.
Friend2: Put it this way, says it’s Obama instead or bush, even if we were fucked, we’d all feel a lot better about being fucked. At least we’d feel like it’s under the best control possible. <Mr_Unstoppable> summarized the main reason why I don’t support him. I can’t morally vote for him into that position
Trumper: Morally? Why not. What has he done that’s broken your morals?
Me: Sexually assaulted 20 women?
Trumper: You guys are killing me. Is he a douche on TV and in press conferences…yes. Does he truly BELIEVE in America first and not floating all of America on unemployment until 2021 and putting us deeper and deeper in to debt like the Democrats do??? Guys ain’t looking at this right. Trump is pro-America and that’s what you need commanding the ship.
Friend2: So the tax cuts that went through so all the corporations could do stock buy back decreases the countries debt and unemployment??? FYI wtf does pro America mean?
Trumper: Don’t focus on the big companies. Yes that’s a perk for them. But focus on companies like mine. We 100% hired more people and invested in our business. We are middle America that is the majority. Not the S&P 500.
Friend2: I’m all about improving our economic position globally. So totally agree with those efforts
Me: Lol if you really thinks he believes in anything other than looking good on television and saying the right things so his followers will shower him with praise, cmon man he’s pro America cause the tv told him too and because when he says make America great again they cheer really
loud at his rallies
Trumper: You still need to answer your ‘moral’ statement btw. Pro America means he wants the country to have the upper hand around the world. Everything he does is to better our position relative to other countries. That’s pro America.
Friend2: Ok, he insults handicap people for being handicap. That’s enough for me right there.
Trumper: He’s a business person who looks at government through a business lens. That’s how you should be RUNNING the country…which is a business.
Friend2: He bangs a porn star, lays her off, then lies about it
Me: He doesn’t do shit for his business lol
Friend2: Don’t care about The banging part, it’s the lying part
Me: On what earth is trump working like how normal human beings work, he’s a fucking lunatic he can barely hold a thought for 10 seconds
Friend2: Also he totally abused his position with that Ukraine shit, I have a problem with that. He also gets in involved in shit he shouldn’t (defense, intelligence, etc)
Trumper: Ok when you guys have some facts on how he RUNS the country. Come talk to me. Not what you think about his character.
Me:
Me: This is how he runs the country, by rage tweeting what he watches on television all day long, because he doesn’t give a shit about being president or anyone but himself
Friend2: That’s a dangerous line to walk , that’s basically saying he can do whatever he wants as long as business is good
Trumper: Blah blah blah <Mr_Unstoppable>. That’s all talk and not action. Take it with a grain of salt. He uses those mediums as chess pieces.
Friend2: What if he deported all handicap people because it takes a strain off the healthcare system
Me: Nope that is not true. He’s a worthless sack of shit that watches television all day.
Trumper: No no no. Go back to my very first line. ‘His social appearances need help and he puts his foot in his mouth’
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Skimmed little toward the end, but Trumper seems like a garden-variety deplorable dumbass. Friend2 seems solidish. The real hero in this exchange was Friend1, who threw out a few half-assed trolls then peaced out when it became clear you guys were gonna go full political.
I liked the heat you brought, but as I suspect you know, nothing will change Trumper’s mind. Hope you had some fun at least?
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yikes wouldn’t go that way at all.
“I can’t vote for Trump. Due to him bungling the covid crises my 401k hasn’t earned a cent in over 3 years. He campaigned on making America great again but I can’t think of one thing he and the republicans did when they had full control of government from 2016 to 2018. He ran on build the wall and make Mexico pay for it, and there’s no wall and Mexico is laughing at us. Worse, that criminal HIllary Clinton is not locked up at all. Nope, Justin Amash for me in 2020.”
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lol i deleted the last two texts which were from friend1 saying “that escalated quickly” and trumper saying he had to go
but yeah you pretty much nailed it. friend1 would probably vote republican if it wasn’t for trump and friend2 is trying to be diplomatic and is nice but he considers himself like one of those fiscal conservative social liberal and probably wishes he could vote republican.
uh yeah the trumper is interesting i guess its just a defense mechanism when you’re surrounded by democrats who hate trump so you have to weasel every response into some weak defense of trump where you agree to disagree about everything and gee golly shucks i don’t know about any of this stuff you’re bringing up what we need are tax cuts!
I like grue’s approach where you sneakily plant some seeds that might blossom into Trumper going lol third party.
Although I think I’m remembering that you’re in CA so I guess Trumper’s vote doesn’t count anyway.
That was the closest we’ll ever get to that smooth interplay from finishing an episode of The Daily Show and then starting an episode of Colbert Report
In the US for the last ~100 years.
Is your mother Mike Lindell?