lol what?
Try reading the article, then come back.
Edit: nice edit of yours lol
tbf itâs really hard to figure out what youâre talking about, as it requires guessing at what part of your position is lying about others positions versus your lack of understanding of basic immunology.
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So this guy gets to troll this thread every day?
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OK, how about you quote one of them, because Iâm pretty sure Iâve been a staunch advocate for vaccinating the previously infected.
My brother has tested positive. He and his wife refuse to be vaxxed over fertility concerns and other easily disproved vaccine myths. Their concern for their own and othersâ health, including at-risk family, has been precisely zero throughout the pandemic. They arenât even deplorable.
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I think he thinks memory T cells get activated by an infection but not by the vaccine for some reason, but itâs very hard to tell.
Then you should retract your accusations of trolling, Mr Trolly.
Folks. Consider this a knock it off.
Arguing about what someone else said months ago is likely to get exiled to bickering. I see little value in rehashing.
Focus on what you think now and what other people are saying now.
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Heâs not even making an argument over something anyone actually said months ago. Heâs just fabricated something he thought we said and claims victory.
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Cite or ban.
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Just to clear up any confusion, you absolutely do get a robust T-cell response from vaccines. Also, you should 100% still get the vaccine even if you think youâve already been infected.
Messenger-RNA (mRNA) vaccines against the coronavirus that causes COVID-19 provoke a swift and strong response by the immune systemâs T cells â the heavy armor of the immune system â according to a study from researchers in the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania. Although recent studies of vaccines tend to focus on the antibody response, the T-cell response is also an important and potentially more durable source of protection â yet little has been reported so far on the T-cell response to COVID-19 vaccines.
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Honestly, whatâs wrong with you?
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I donât think this thread should be misleading people about such an important matter of public health.
I really canât wrap my brain around throwing away a good job for this. Apparently they were on a probationary period as new employees of <6 months so they got canned instead of placed on unpaid leave. Thereâs still 671 out of compliance but would get unpaid leave if they donât agree to testing.
Well they might have gotten fired but did you consider that they owned the libs?
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Fwiw itâs worth the current claim of immune system memory in vaxxed vs virus acquired immunity should stay here. There is a lot of covidiots using the âI got pozzed so that as good as or better as being vaxxedâ line. Itâs an important discussion. Itâs hard to help that misinterpretation of the data and facts is happening from a repeat offender.
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Hereâs another article on the same topic. I thought KHN was a relatively reputable outlet, but this articleâwhich has some good info in itâsuffers from excessive both-sidesing. As in equal time to people saying ânatural immunity is good enoughâ and people saying âwe donât know enough yetâ.
That said, evidence is growing that contracting SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes covid-19, is generally as effective as vaccination at stimulating your immune system to prevent the disease. Yet federal officials have been reluctant to recognize any equivalency, citing the wide variation in covid patientsâ immune response to infection.
Iâm not following this âcontroversyâ that closely, but Iâm not even sure the bolded is true. Maybe âboth-sidesingâ is giving the author too much credit.
Itâs one thing to refuse to get vaccinated for some idiotic reason. Itâs another to also refuse to be regularly tested. The only reason youâd do this is if you donât really believe thereâs a pandemic, and you reject any public health or safety concerns. No sympathy.
Also, 6â2 and 225 hereâŚbut 35 and realized Iâm overweight so am rowing (on a machine) and playing hockey again to try and drop 25 lbs over the next 3-4 months
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