COVID-19: Chapter 9 - OMGicron

Here too (Boston area), but the rapid PCR tests are available from the urgent care places for like $130, and 2-hour turnaround. The slow PCR tests are slow, 2-5 days quoted.

I got them at Walgreens, $23 for two tests

If you are near Boston, the drive thru places are a medium option. $80 and was a 15 hour turnaround last time I used it. Plenty of spots available in and out in 15 minutes.

Cannot stress enough how fucking dumb it is that you need to spend meaningful money to get test results in a reasonable time period.

Also kicking myself for not stocking up on Binax during the lull when they were readily available

My son got invited to a classmate’s sleepover birthday party. Just four kids in total. We don’t know the family, but the dad was cool and texted us so we could connect and get to know each other. My wife spoke with him and one of the first things she asked was if they were all vaxxed. Nope. (we’re all vaxxed, ldo)

His wife is a pharmacist, so she’s vaxxed, but they won’t get the kid vaxxed because of that myocarditis report. I’m assuming the dad isn’t vaxxed, either, or my wife would’ve told me he was.

So yeah, no sleepover for us. They’ll probably get together in a park or something.

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Pretty funny story here. A Strayan show called A Current Affair, one of those pulp current affairs shows that spend a lot of time shoving cameras in people’s faces, tried to ambush a pastor at his house with a camera crew. The pastor’s church has recently copped fines for illegal gatherings, no mask wearing etc etc. Unfortunately the pastor’s wife filmed their attempt and they were… not wearing masks, in violation of a standing public health order. They subsequently ate $500 fines and a 14-day home quarantine.

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Took a quick peek into the 22 BFI COVID thread. Good lord, that place is a shithole.

I’m friends with this guy on Facebook who I’ve met a few times. He’s a super cool, nice guy in real life. He went to the Air Force Academy and served, but is now into sound-baths and yoga and ayahuasca and shit like that.

I posted something a while back about how people weren’t really equipped to do their own research. He replied with a super long-winded thing about good vs. bad studies and peer review and blah blah. Basically misconstruing my point to mean people should get better at doing their own research, when really I meant people should just take the leap of faith that all the world’s top doctors, virologists and epidemiologists aren’t lying to them.

Fine whatever, I just liked his post. Then today he posts this with no comment, and all his yoga buddies are like “THANK YOU!” and “This needed to be said.”

GAHHHHHH - this is like the absolute worst no-context nonsense imaginable. And he’s lecturing me about doing good research.

So anyway I looked up some of this unknown person who claims to be an ex-Navy surgeon’s stats:

  1. Yes there were only 20 deaths in the active military in 2020, but there have been a shitton lately since Delta.
  2. I have no idea what she’s talking about with myocarditis being fatal within 5 years 2/3 of the time. Is that true for any form of myocarditis?
  3. She’s sort of sneakily leading people to think that all 80 myocarditis deaths in the military (I wasn’t able to confirm that one) are from the vaccines, when it’s doubtful even one of them is.
  4. Similarly with the 1600 myocarditis claims in VAERS. Well duh we just vaccinated 200 million people in a blitz, and this vaccine has a known very rare myocarditis adverse effect. What’s the point of comparing that number to past vaccines given mostly to children that don’t have myocarditis as a side effect? Again, she doesn’t say anything technically false, just says it in a really misleading way.

Just the worst shit from Mr. “This is how to research” Guy. Bleh. I replied to him with the bullet points I posted above, because I respect this guy. But I can’t go back onto FB tonight or I’ll be up all night thinking up arguments in my head.

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Dude seriously just delete Facebook. Come on, you’re way too smart and thoughtful for this.

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I’m just going to make an auto-reply for every time you post this.

Facebook is a net positive for me. I don’t spend much time there. I like keeping up with old friends w/o having to actually directly interact with them, and some of the groups are essential to me. These kinds of frustrating encounters are extremely rare as I’ve booted every derper off my feed a long time ago.

I’ve saved this to my notes for next time. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Nope. Vast majority of people with myocarditis do just fine.

The 80 myocarditis deaths is most likely a lie, otherwise viral sources are the cause. No one has died from a vaccine related myocarditis.

Anyone can make a report to VAERS. You can’t use the data that way

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This is from the BMJ from July, only just seen it:

Mol, like Roberts, has conducted systematic reviews only to realise that most of the trials included either were zombie trials that were fatally flawed or were untrustworthy. What, he asked, is the scale of the problem? Although retractions are increasing, only about 0.04% of biomedical studies have been retracted, suggesting the problem is small. But the anaesthetist John Carlisle analysed 526 trials submitted to Anaesthesia and found that 73 (14%) had false data, and 43 (8%) he categorised as zombie. When he was able to examine individual patient data in 153 studies, 67 (44%) had untrustworthy data and 40 (26%) were zombie trials. Many of the trials came from the same countries (Egypt, China, India, Iran, Japan, South Korea, and Turkey), and when John Ioannidis, a professor at Stanford University, examined individual patient data from trials submitted from those countries to Anaesthesia during a year he found that many were false: 100% (7/7) in Egypt; 75% (3/ 4) in Iran; 54% (7/13) in India; 46% (22/48) in China; 40% (2/5) in Turkey; 25% (5/20) in South Korea; and 18% (2/11) in Japan. Most of the trials were zombies. Ioannidis concluded that there are hundreds of thousands of zombie trials published from those countries alone.

Others have found similar results, and Mol’s best guess is that about 20% of trials are false. Very few of these papers are retracted.

20% fake is bananas. This is Anaesthesia, a legit and respected journal. How many papers in the garbage journals are fraudulent? Gotta be well higher than 20%. Does every discipline have this problem? Whatever the incentive structure is creating this needs to be reconsidered. People don’t just spend their time making up studies for no reason at all.

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Mrs Rugby’s aunt positive in the Philippines. This was an aunt who basic helped raise her. We are both super worried. Not sure on vax status. I think no, it’s been hard to get in Phil.

Edit. She’s apparently double vaxxed AstraZeneca.

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Just like In any field there are morons and there are bad apples. I’ve been reading literature for 35 years now. Much more morons that bad apples.

But recently in the medical field it seems like the bad apples are gaining. The ivermectin stuff is just bullshit. Then the work gets to be part of meta analysis. It’s very much analogous to bundling bad mortgages into top rated bonds.

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I think this true in most fields in the US. We are firmly in the “extract wealth out of society for personal short term gain” phase of the American Empire. The labor market rewards short term transactional behavior by employees. Increased digitization of the economy is increasingly making it easier to dehumanize the other people affected by our actions. The legal system has proven itself ineffective at punishing bad behavior even when caught red handed. This is a potent mix of factors that will drive people toward bad behavior.

Yep. We have entered the grift economy. Everybody is going to take as much as they can through any means necessary, including fleecing innocents.

Scientific literature is a international community, and the fraudulent literature very often isn’t American at all. Ivermectin fraud paper was Egyptian I think, hcq fraud paper was French. You’re trying too hard to make this fit into your thoughts on america in decline

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That’s fair. I was just making the aside that there is a growth in “bad actors” more generally, I didn’t actually mean to draw a line from America’s failing society and this individual paper. Good clarification.

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I don’t even know if this is the right thread to put this in, but yeah

https://twitter.com/AaronParnas/status/1441052899430191117?s=20

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It’s like all the stupidest Ron Paul morons from 2p2 are in actually in charge of shit somehow now.

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https://twitter.com/conselfowns/status/1440838460521082882?s=21

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