COVID-19: Chapter 8 - Ongoing source of viral information, and a little fun

Why the fuck do humans have a bat virus in 2020?

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Yeah, I feel like recent news has been very not good. The one unknown piece from that Israeli data is the vaccination priority - several people pointed out that Israel prioritized both age and high-risk status in determining vaccine eligibility. If so, it’s really hard to interpret even the age-adjusted trends in efficacy.

But I haven’t felt this pessimistic about things in quite a long time. Which made it super awesome to send my kids to their first day of school this morning. Apparently one of our neighbors at a different bus stop witnessed two moms screaming at the bus driver that their kids had a mask exemption. Such good times.

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As far as I know, Florida Virtual School is available to anyone in the state who has access to a computer and the Internet. Mine did it all of last year (and may well wind up there again in the near future).

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Yeah if the people who were highest risk were vaxxed first you’d expect to see earlier vaxxed people having worse outcomes than later vaxxed people. Idk how Israel did their roll out - like, in the US, I’d expect that vaccines given to gen pop (not healthcare workers) will be really concentrated on old and otherwise at risk people until like March or April.

With that said, this study seems to be broken down by age groups and shows a steady decline over time, which seems pretty telling.

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WHAT?

They have the specific anti-bodies to the Covid-19 virus. How do 3 wild deer blood samples from Jan 2020 test positive for anti-bodies when I don’t believe most states had even reported their first human case yet? I doubt they are doing massive samples of wild deer blood, but I need to dig into that a little more.

But it seems like 3 positive samples out of what I’m assuming to be a relatively small sample size suggests this was already spreading pretty good in wild deer in January 2020. If that doesn’t start to form a lot of questions in your mind, I think the problem is you and not me.

There are traces back to November/December 2019. Maybe a pre-mutated form that was less dangerous?

Things are very slowly getting worse in the Czech Republic and we have responded by continuing to remove restrictions.

Yesterday, we had the most new cases (294) in the last month and highest percentage of positive cases (2.35%) in the past 6 weeks. Reproductive rate is ever so slightly above 1 at 1.02.

School starts in 2 weeks here. Things are almost certainly going to get worse by the end of September just like last school year.

So he admits that the vaccine is helpful to those who receive it? Yet he’s an antivaxxer who doesn’t want it himself? I guess I’ll never understand derpers.

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It’s a zoonotic virus, and you’re astonished non-humans are getting it?

To me it means we should be questioning everything we think we know about where it originated and the general timelines.

No. I’m questioning the timing and prevalence in non-humans in the USA. But you already knew that.

To what end?

It was certainly here long before we were detecting and reporting it, I’m pretty sure that’s been the conventional wisdom.

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Because I’m curious and would like to know what actually happened.

That doesn’t seem like conventional wisdom to me. I think we all accept it was perhaps a little more widespread in humans in the USA maybe back to Nov/Dec 2019. But these deer blood samples testing positive in Jan 2020 suggest to me (an admitted non-expert) much more widespread circulation earlier than that in animals and humans than anything I’m previously seen.

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The top priority is to assert that everything is a personal consumer choice, no one need ever concern themselves with what anyone else is doing. The conservative/antivaxxer’s right to their desired lifestyle follows from that assertion.

They also don’t really believe anything other than “I should be able to do anything I want”. When they say “you only helped yourself” with the vaccine, it’s not a statement about vaccine efficacy. It’s a statement that all liberals are phonies just pretending to care about other people.

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Sure. Given that it’s hard to tell COVID from a normal respiratory virus, this thing had a long head start to spread everywhere before anyone even knew what was happening. There’s strong evidence it was kicking around Europe in Jan 2020.

I thought the conventional wisdom was if it had been here long before we were detecting and reporting it with zero restrictions it would have spread like wildfire and we would have had hospitals filling up much quicker?

Like if covid was here for 4+ months without anyone even being aware of it, wouldn’t shit have gotten crazy as hell?

Mask exemptions are peak shitlib. “Religious exemption,” get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.

At some point liberals need to get comfortable with straight up dictating how other people behave. I don’t know why this is so hard to grasp after Donald Trump and 1,000+ school shootings, but it’s an incredibly annoying shitlib trait to “respect choice” or whatever. These assholes are in a death cult and their “choice” is informed by 7 hours a day mainlining Facebook and Fwd:Fwd:Fwd:Fwd emails.

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https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1427979899151785985?s=21

At least the kids don’t have to be raised by anti-vax dipshits.