Oh, I got it now, Ryan Reynolds. A half brother that got dropped as a child.
Being on a train makes it a difficult situation and doing what u say is probably best in that situation tbh, making sure you keep away from eyeballing him.
âI respect freedom. Now do exactly what I tell you to do under implied threat of violence.â
Your average right winger summed up in 30 seconds.
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Right-wingers are low-level thinkers. Direct rewards and threats are the only language they speak. They only know how to persuade someone by threatening or bribing them and they they only respond to being threatened or bribed. Doing otherwise, like trying to reason with them, is usually a waste of time.
Kick him in the balls from behind right before the next stop and get off once you land
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Like a rugby conversion?
Boarding a Tampa-Chicago flight, the amount of masks on chins or not covering noses is pretty staggering. Some people booed when the flight attendant gave the âwear your mask properlyâ talk. This fucking country.
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The only vaguely analogous situation I was in, I did exactly this. A woman on the Toronto subway at rush hour started freaking out at another woman saying that she âbumpedâ her when getting on the subway. It was really weird, but the first lady seemed ready to like actually throw a punch at the other woman and the second one couldnât get away because it was rush hour so people were pretty congested. I was about close by and just shuffled quickly between them, with my back to the woman who was really angry. I was gambling that she wouldnât throw a punch at the back of my head. It did work though, once we got some separation between them other people on the train chimed in saying âcalm downâ and âlet it goâ stuff like that, and the angry woman just kind of backed off and stewed.
Obviously a different story than a âlooking for a fightâ anti vaxxer douche.
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Throwing a punch here is a huge mistake. Itâs nice to imagine that it will be like the action movies, but it wonât be. Just a million things can go wrong - you can get punched back, you can get arrested, you can catch somebody square with a good punch and they get badly, badly hurt and you get sued and lose.
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Itâs America - you can also get shot.
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People are so fucking stupid. This one is just going to have to die or get super seriously ill from Covid before sheâs going to believe anything different:
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Throwing a punch is about the worst thing you can do. Thereâs actually some pretty good social science about effective bystander intervention.
5 strategies:
- Distract - just casually start chatting with the victim. Make it clear you are an ally and ignore the aggressor.
- Delegate: âExcuse me, this person is being harassed. Can you help?â
- Document: Start filming, gather evidence.
- Delay: When the incident is over, check in with the victim. âAre you OK?â
- Direct: Assess your safety first, and then consider a clear, direct intervention. âThatâs inappropriate. Leave them alone.â
#1 has been effective for me in the past.
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First of all, if you make a habit of punching every drunk asshole on the train, you are going to end up in jail or the hospital before very long.
Second of all, this guy isnât acting like this most of the time. Its a sparsely populated train, looks to be daytime and he is accosting elderly people. Heâs reading the room and has already determined that nobody is a threat. So he probably wouldnât be acting like this if you were the punching type. Frankly, he looks like the type of out of towner who needed a couple of drinks to work up the nerve just to take the subway.
As the great Bas Rutten said, âEverybody underestimates a kick to the groin.â
Kicks are normally unexpected from untrained people. They start out of a personâs field of vision and untrained people are less familar with blocking them since theyâre more uncommon than punches or slaps. They deal a crazy amount of damage relative to the amount of effort needed to throw them. You donât need great technique. You donât need a lot of power. You donât hit to even hit cleanly. You only need to stun your target for a few seconds since thatâll give you a head start on running away. Anything more is extra credit.
You need all three of those to land an effective punch though.
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i saw an attempted assault on the bus, an super old guy with a walker and a pocket knife extended his hand towards a young immigrant womanâs face in a head scarf. i wasnât very close, but a much more gathered younger guy did 4 and 5, and it was over in less than 15 seconds.
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This wave is definitely hitting closer to home than the others. Everywhere that my circles intersect with Trumpier circles there are people getting severely ill right now.
imo the south had been spared largely by COVID, but now thatâs changing dramatically.
This seems so counter-intuitive to me because I know if I was the one being harassed and somebody started casually talking to me my first response would be âHey this lunaticâs screaming at me, you see that right?â but Iâll keep it in mind to try in the future.
I posted about this in OOT - a couple of years ago in a parking garage I ran into a situation where a man was physically restraining a woman from leaving/getting on an elevator. I intervened, he backed off, and she got on the elevator. My MO in these situations is to speak to everyone involved in a LOUD, authoritative, direct voice. It does not hurt that Iâm physically large with a shaved head and look (Iâve been told) intimidating. First I asked loudly what was happening and he just said âSheâs my wife.â I said âI donât care, youâre going to take your hands off her.â Then I asked her if she wanted to get on the elevator, she said yes, and off we went. She refused further assistance from me after that and got off on a different floor. When I got where I was going (my dentist) I told them what happened and they called security to take a look around.
I canât imagine starting that interaction by casually chatting with the victim, but maybe I got lucky that the guy was just having a disagreement with his wife and not a total psycho and/or armed.
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