Wait wat? I thought someone itt proved it was vaccine type.
LOL. People are protesting in LA too I just saw. Andrew Kimmel just went live streaming there.
And there is a fight already lolz
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Probably not the thread for it. But i kind of think this IS transphobic.
Like. Not dating someone of a certain race IS racist too right? Like āno asiansā is a pretty big thing on dating apps and thats fucked up.
Not saying its something any of us can change or or perhaps even should try to change, but we should probably recognize its a holdover from a lifetime of transphobia and hope that the next few generations get better at it.
And yeah. Its WAY down the list of priorities, and you can be a great trans ally without dating trans folks, but its still a kind of harmful thing.
I donāt know, man. People canāt really help who they are attracted to.
Looks like you might be wrong on this one, buddy. Iāll let you and Rugby sort it out.
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A couple of things.
Just because you cant help who you are attracted to, doesnt mean its not transphobic. If someone is raised by the KKK and has an involuntary disgust towards non white folks, does that make it less racist?
Secondly. There are clearly lots of very attractive trans women, they are models, win beauty contests etc.
If someone see a picture, not knowing they are trans, and finds it attractive, but then changes their mind on attraction based purely on the fact they are transā¦ what other conclusion can you draw?
I think you may want to consider extracting this an putting it in a new thread. At the risk of appearing to be simply JAQing off, here are some questions for you to consider:
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If a gay man doesnāt date women, does that make it misogynistic, even if it is involuntary? If your answer is no, then how exactly is that different from a straight man who wonāt date trans women because of an involuntary reaction?
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Instead of a trans person, lets say someone saw a picture of a very attractive male in drag (who does not intend to transition). After seeing the picture, viewer thinks āThatās a very attractive womanā. Now you reveal to him itās actually a man in drag, at which point he reveals he would never date that person. What conclusion do you personally draw from that?
Id prefer not to. The trans threads here havent gone that well and could turn into a big thread about āis it okay to think trans people are grossā. Mine is also a fairly minority view, and not necessarily a battle thats top priority to fight right now.
To respond to a question with a question.
If you were raising a trans daughter. How would you feel about the fact she would have to out herself to all prospective partners, and go through life knowing that many people wouldnt date her just because shes trans?
Like. Mainly you would just be worried about her staying safe, getting a job, being able to play sport or having somewhere to pee, but at some point it would be great if we could move beyind that stuff too.
Probably a generation away tho.
This seems like one of those things that you canāt really understand unless your actually in the situation. Keeping that in mind, I think that would feel standard to me. Being trans is tough. And while it would be nice for the world to change in such a way that it was less tough, thatās not a change that Iād expect.
Yeah. I dont expect it to change either, but it would be nice.
Now my mom is going on about people including pronouns in their LinkedIn profiles and I found out Seamless doesnāt work here. Take me back to New York please.
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One of the most ludicrous things Iāve ever read. Is it also sexist of me to not date men?
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What a weird derail
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Thanks for engaging so thoughtfully.
As much as you donāt want to, I still think excision of this topic is a good idea. But whatever you choose is fine with me.
Man, I am really in a dark place, cause all I can think about is how great it would be if someone with covid showed up and infected every one of those dickheads.
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