i feel kinda bad because the rate of return is almost certainly better in another country fuck me that doesn’t seem to matter either. Might as well people who give a shit take a third shot.
https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1425528973744738305?s=21
Watch this
His wife with stage 4 cancer got discharged early due to Covid patient overflow at their local hospital.
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That’s frightening. I thought that it had been determined there was a major sampling bias in the Israeli study, having to do with the sequence in which the vaccines were administered by age and across cities? On my phone now but will try to find it later when I’m back home.
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This study is out today, I think:
Also on phone and have not looked at it.
The vaccines are still holding up against severe outcomes and we knew we would
probably need boosters. People don’t want to hear it, but if we want to get case counts under control we need mitigation to get case counts lower than they were in June, then need to take them off very very cautiously and keep masking for an extended time.
Since lol we aren’t doing that, these waves are just kind of life now for awhile.
A quick look at this demonstrates they don’t have a good control for a large part of the population having natural immunity, which is a serious limitation in the paper. They try with the previous testing, but it’s not particularly compelling and a clear alternative explanation of their data is that there’s a lot of unknown positives (which we know is true).
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I just turned on a live poker stream from BestBet in Jacksonville, FL and everyone at the table is masked.
The announcer said the casino has had a mask requirement for the past weeks.
So Desantis is allowing casinos but not schools to have mask requirements?
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Mask up…
Data from Public Health England (PHE) reveal that of all the people who died within 28 days of testing positive for the delta variant between 1 February and 19 July, 49% (224) had had two vaccine doses. Almost all of these people, 220, were aged 50 or older.2
Warning signs
Data up to 4 August from Imperial College London’s React study found that people who said they had received two vaccine doses were half as likely to test positive for covid-19, adjusting for other factors such as age and whether or not they had symptoms.3 The researchers estimated a 50-60% lower risk of infection from the delta variant if a person was double vaccinated.
The picture emerging from various countries does, however, suggest that vaccinated people are more likely to experience symptoms after catching the delta variant compared with earlier forms of the virus.
Data published by the Israeli government suggest that the Pfizer BioNTech jab’s efficacy against symptomatic infection fell from 94% to 64% after the delta variant began spreading in the country.4
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How would that explain the difference between Pfizer and Moderna though?
Seems sketchy to include the Israeli study, and wasn’t there something off about the P-town study as well? Looks like his 50-60% estimate is heavily based on the UK-REACT study.
The Real Time Assessment of Community Transmission?? Woooaaa, might be sketchy
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/medicine/research-and-impact/groups/react-study/
I understand you’re weirdly sensitive about anything UK-adjacent, but I didn’t say this wasn’t a legit study.
The Israeli study won’t be sketchy either - if you remeber back Israel jumped the line and paid less than US & UK for earlier access to Pfizer - in return for giving Pfizer all the tests and studies Phizer required.
Uk first, US second…Israel no prior order reported but got served up third. Ideal, concentrated, large community to run the studies.
Now the results are out, some do not like the results.
The same sizes are that small that the studies are testing the same people, each week throughout the pandemic. Other than REACT.
People who follow this shit much more closely that you or I have raised pretty serious objections to that Israeli study, but w/e.
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Report was by the Israeli Health Ministry.
ITT, the ongoing source of vital information, we have Twitter rebuttals.
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The boomer deadheads frothing about the vax restrictions announced for concerts are great. Shows will probably be postponed/cancelled still anyway.
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Yes, they didn’t have equal cohorts in that study in a manner such that it would make vaccines look less effective, as has been previously discussed. Being from a government health agency doesn’t mean that you can’t read the study and find issues with the methodology.
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This seems like a study that should have been done much sooner, but it’s interesting nevertheless.
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The chairman of Israel’s own COVID advisory team has criticized the study, as have other experts. Please stop mischaracterizing my posts.
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