COVID-19: Chapter 8 - Ongoing source of viral information, and a little fun

oh good grief take it to AU

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It’s the sort of thing you would say when you’re a lawyer or a judge. The opinion of a normal person does not matter.

Vaccines are still quite effective against the delta variant. We also know quite well what the riskiest activities are: those that involve being unmasked indoors with lots of other unmasked people. If you want to be extra cautious out of respect for your mom, which is entirely reasonable, but you also don’t want to be a hermit, then the things to avoid are exactly those. Wearing a mask while doing regular shopping is of little cost to you or anyone around you, and it can be an extra layer of security. If you want to eat out, pick a place with outdoor dining. I’m not sure if your mom needs so much support that it’d be unreasonable to take her along on such an outing, but covid isn’t a big risk to a vaccinated person outdoors even if they’re “high risk.” And it is still a good idea to keep an eye on the local case load. If you’re seeing a big spike, then it’s good to be more cautious.

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Anyways, here is a reasonable definition of “biological agent”:

(1)the term “biological agent” means any microorganism (including, but not limited to, bacteria, viruses, fungi, rickettsiae or protozoa), or infectious substance, or any naturally occurring, bioengineered or synthesized component of any such microorganism or infectious substance, capable of causing—

(A)

death, disease, or other biological malfunction in a human, an animal, a plant, or another living organism;

(B)

deterioration of food, water, equipment, supplies, or material of any kind; or

(C)

deleterious alteration of the environment;

The government has put out a very vague “road map” for returning to normal, there is acknowledgement that eventually covid will need to be treated as an endemic disease, but we are lagging behind on vaccinations and will need everyone who wants a vaccine to get one. I anticipate the borders opening up probably mid to late next year.

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Thought I’d shift this here. We actually had a death in NSW yesterday, but it was this woman whose twin sons travelled from Sydney to regional NSW to work as removalists despite knowing they had covid. They are Middle Eastern origin and blaming a language barrier but c’mon, Sydney is in lockdown and they got a covid test, it seems hard to believe. Police have charged them with breaking quarantine.

And the mother, after diagnosis with covid she was offered care in a specialist facility and was like “nah I’m good actually I’ll just stay home” and three days later was dead. Does this all amount to WINNAR status? Not sure but not totally devoid of WINNAR characteristics in her gene pool for sure.

Haven’t read the study. So it’s either something of concern or irresponsible journalism.

It’s not terribly conclusive. This is an antibody generation study, not a clinical outcome study, and antibodies aren’t a perfect proxy for clinical outcome. They aren’t the totality of your immune response, either.

Making these papers public before they go through peer review is the worst idea ever.

I’ve actually loved reading all these.

The media play of it is certainly a downside though.

It’s better what was happening in march/April, which was all doctors on twitter/fb/group chats sharing anecdotes and algorithms

I had no idea this was a word.

I’m not sure this quote is legit, but I’d probably have to be hospitalized after 4 hours if Biden said this:

https://twitter.com/AmericanEthical/status/1417668160291958789

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Macron doesn’t have daughters afaik and the antagonizing tone also doesn’t match his recent speeches so this is almost certainly a fake quote fwiw…

(Still great that they went through with this ! Just got an email from the gym saying they will start checking vaccination status, and also curious to see how this will play out in restaurants/bars/movie theaters…)

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https://twitter.com/ClarkCountyNV/status/1417645313683120128

Oh, BTW, I’m flying to Vegas this Sunday.

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It’s weird, as you say Macron isn’t framing things like that and it’s far too clear and direct and not nearly pompous enough to be him. It appears to have originated at this curious site which seems to specialise in weirdly written ‘news’ of unknown origins. It claims it was a ‘summary’ of a speech he made on the 17th, but he didn’t make a speech then. (Most of it is about measures he announced several days earlier)

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Twitter detectives figured out that the quote is coming from an Italian journalist’s Instagram post. I’d be curious to know in more detail how this ended up being attributed to Macron. I wish he’d actually said it of course :slight_smile:

https://twitter.com/alexhern/status/1417773730445549569?s=19

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Nice detective work there. I only tracked English versions, amateur hour!

Meanwhile in Alabama. Arguably appropriate for the when terrible people die thread but that would probably rustle some jimmies. Lol 33% vaccination rate.

https://twitter.com/racheld/status/1417836382060433408?s=21

Dr. Brytney Cobia said Monday that all but one of her COVID patients in Alabama did not receive the vaccine. The vaccinated patient, she said, just needed a little oxygen and is expected to fully recover. Some of the others are dying.

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Rustle away, imo.

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In a last ditch effort to get my MIL/FIL vaccinated we offered to pay them a sizeable amount to do it. That probably seems a little weird or crass but we are out of options as persuading them, even with their daughter’s first hand Covid experience has been totally fruitless. They just say stuff like “If it’s my time to go, it’s my time to go”. My partner and I are both pretty scared for their well-being as they are both in their 60s with significant comorbidities and both work at a school. Vaccination rates where they live are obviously negligible. Their odds of surviving the school year do not seem great. Their response to the offer, at least for now, is not talking to us.

I am having a hard time not wishing some very bad things on all their Kansas hillbilly friends and extended family poisoning their minds with all the conspiracy stuff. They aren’t the type to watch FN/OAN/etc. so they are getting their brains melted by the people closest to them.

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